The Campus Dining Petition

Wrong for dining dorms; wrong for students; wrong for MIT

Signatures

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  1. Keone D Hon, senior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 1:46 pm
    I am not satisfied with the proposed new dining plan, and I am not willing to accept the assertion that "it's too late, the process must go forward".

    Every indication suggests that students are not content with the new plan. The administration has countered that there was ample process for students to voice their concerns. This response is unacceptable for two reasons. First, there actually was NOT ample process given the rushed timing; the lack of transparency in the entire HDAG process, from the selection of representatives to the reporting of the state of the process; and the fact that student opinions that went against the process were ignored. Second, every indication suggests that students are NOT happy with the new plan, so arguing about whether or not students expressed opinions during the short window of time between HDAG's final recommendations and the beginning of the RFP process is almost irrelevant.

    The administration (and, in particular, Dean for Student Life Chris Colombo) needs to immediately halt plans to implement the recommendations of HDAG, and open a process for examining students' preferences and developing a plan which gains the approval of (at minimum) the majority of the student body. I will not rest until I see this happen.
  2. James E White, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 4:55 pm
    Used to live on campus -- think mandatory dining ruins culture. College students aren't kids -- they shouldn't be hand fed. There are plenty of good restaurants in a 10 min walk.
  3. Sara D Goheen, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 4:56 pm
  4. Mengjie Ding, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 4:56 pm
  5. Judith M Vasquez, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 4:57 pm
    I disapprove of the proposed plan because of its failure to solve the financial dilemma that dining proposes, as it only shifts the financial burden to another part of the institute budget, and for its negative impact on dorm culture.
  6. Lindsay A Wilhelmus, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 4:59 pm
  7. Yan Zhu, junior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:00 pm
    Whether or not one agrees with the dining plan, disregard for student input is intolerable. I sign here because the aforementioned actions of the administration threaten the survival of a constructive, trust-based relationship between the administration and the students of MIT.
  8. Anubhav Sinha, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:01 pm
    I empathize with students affected directly by the plan. Many of them will be forced to give up dormitory cultures that they enjoy because of the cost. In non-dining dorms, this will lead to a deterioration of dormitory culture because those students will lottery in. Dormitory culture is a major factor in what makes MIT special; instituting house dining destroys this.

    The HDAG plan could spell the ruin of campus culture as we know it, and by extension, MIT as MIT.
  9. Scott R Johnston, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:04 pm
  10. Rachel Fong, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:08 pm
  11. Elizabeth R Levin, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:09 pm
  12. William C Ung, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:10 pm
  13. Daniel R Vickery, graduate student, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:10 pm
    The fact that this plan must be made mandatory to be financially stable is indicative of the fact that it is undesirable. Meal service should be desirable enough that students willingly pay for it!

    Forcing dining habits upon undergraduates is an insult to their intelligence and maturity. These students are future leaders in their fields. They will be designing systems upon which human safety depends, whose robustness and sophistication is critical.

    I'm sure they'll be able to feed themselves without help from a mandatory $5000 meal plan.
  14. David W Xiao, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:11 pm
  15. David J Wise, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:16 pm
    Dorm culture is an integral part of the MIT experience and makes it possible to survive here. The HDAG plan destroys this in the process of failing to reduce dining costs.
  16. Christianne B Swartz, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:16 pm
  17. Philip D Tynan, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:19 pm
  18. Louis A Sobel, freshman, Burton-Conner (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:19 pm
  19. Alec P Thomson, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:21 pm
  20. Audrey M Healy, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:22 pm
    There is a good chance that my dorm's unique culture will be destroyed if the new dining plan takes effect.
  21. Laurel Smith Pardue, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:24 pm
    One of the things I genuinely liked as an undergraduate was that MIT did not make me buy into a food plan that was completely unsuited to my meal habits. I went to a boarding school where we were were required to go to school meals when we generally much preferred cooking our own meals and had to hide what we were doing. It was silly.
    After graduation I spent 6 years in the military, again a place with a lot of mandatory meals. Most troops look forwards to not having to eat at the dinning halls. Even deployed, I'd try to avoid the dining halls because again, the food was neither healthy, nor that great. (This was often pretty hard.)
    The point, mandatory food plans are good for some but not all. The fact that the current system is not financially viable suggests that that is exactly the case here. There is not the demand for it. Fixing lack of demand by making it mandatory is not a good solution, certainly not by our capitalist standards. MIT can do better than this, whether it is by reducing what is on offer or other ideas.
    MIT is stressful. In all the complaints I've heard through my years at MIT, I've never heard people complain about access to food or suffering from malnutrition due to access. What is helpful at MIT is having a community you are happy in and is supportive. MIT has a much stronger dorm & FSILG culture than most schools and that is a huge part of what makes the stress here bearable. It is a large part of what makes us fond of our time here and part of what makes us want to donate as alums.
    This plan is misguided. I can't imagine how it could be right for MIT. Don't dismiss the student voice on this. Every time I watch the administration ignore the students, I just send my donations to my FSLIG instead.
  22. Yunxin Jiao, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:24 pm
    The dining plan will have an immensely negative impact on the dorm culture at MIT. Just about everyone I've talked to is trying to move out of their dorms because of the dining plan. Please consider the culture at MIT--it is the main reason why I, and most people, come here to study. It is never for the food.
  23. Joshua M Gordonson, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:24 pm
    The new dining plan was screwed from the beginning. I'm surprised that the affected dorms let HDAG finish. They just didn't care, I guess.

    Since I won't be affected by this issue, I'm really just signing this to save those who are affected.

    To the administration: leave dining alone or eliminate it altogether. Providing food for undergrads is not a winning business, especially if you have to front the infrastructure. Students are mature enough to feed themselves. In addition, we shouldn't be comparing MIT to other universities because MIT is NOT another university. There are a lot of freedoms that undergraduates at MIT are given because we are willing to fight for them. Plenty of undergrads that I've spoken to their university's dining plans.
  24. Nathaniel R Porter, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:28 pm
  25. Dmitrij Petters, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:29 pm
  26. Yu Zhao, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:30 pm
  27. Timothy B Reynolds, junior, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:30 pm
  28. Paula M Te, senior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:30 pm
    It's important to take into account what students might want before forcing them to pay twice as much money for something.
  29. Patrick B Wu, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:32 pm
  30. Vineet Gopal, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:32 pm
    The new dining plan almost doubles the cost of food throughout the year. This is not a viable solution to something that wasn't much of a problem in the first place.
  31. Brinda Vijaykumar, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:32 pm
  32. Joel N Veenstra, senior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:32 pm
  33. Jessica B Hamrick, senior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:34 pm
  34. Jessica E Fujimori, freshman, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:35 pm
    The new plan is way too expensive!!
  35. Jingkun Yang, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:36 pm
  36. Christopher S Chin, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:36 pm
  37. Anthony W Lee, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:38 pm
  38. Sharon S Hao, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:39 pm
  39. Akira W Monri, junior, Phi Delta Theta (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:39 pm
  40. Eunice Giarta, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:41 pm
    This dining plan is riddled with issues; from the blatant disregard on the part of the administration in failing to address or consider student concerns, to the obvious flaws in "fixing" the institute deficit by creating strains in other parts of the budget and imposing a preposterous, mandatory dining plan (which in my case more than triples the amount spent on dining) just to name a few.

    As key members of the MIT community, our opinions should be more then heard, but acted upon. When the students of MIT suffer, the entire Institute suffers.
  41. Danielle Gorman, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:41 pm
    As a resident of a non-dining dorm, I feel strongly that the current dining plan will seriously and adversely affect both my experience at MIT, and the experiences of those students who follow me. The number one reason that I selected MIT over other colleges was my feeling that the MIT administration respected each student's maturity by allowing them to make autonomous decisions. This dining proposal will drastically harm dorm culture and will seriously diminish each student's ability to (1) have a dorm that satisfies their social and personal needs/preferences and (2) find food options that are affordable and convenient. It effectively binds students to decisions they would never prefer if given reasonable alternatives.
  42. Emily K Chen, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:42 pm
  43. Kyle M Knoblock, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:42 pm
  44. Kieran A Mclaughlan, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:42 pm
  45. Connie C Lu, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:43 pm
    I urge you to strongly consider this petition and push HDAG to take student opinion seriously. What Keone has written above correctly represents my personal opinion.
  46. Rebecca M Bianco, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:43 pm
  47. Jia Yi Har, graduate student, Other (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:44 pm
  48. George J Hansel, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:44 pm
  49. Juhee Bae, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:44 pm
  50. Brenda Perez Alvarado, senior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:44 pm
  51. Charles Hsu, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:45 pm
  52. Meagan A Roth, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:45 pm
    It's not so much the dining that bothers me. I think there is a need for a different system. However, the flagrant disregard for student opinion is just a slap in the face of what I thought MIT was. When I first came here, I thought it was special and unique. Hacks, UROPs, crazy things during IAP. And as I've been here for my four years I have seen the life slowly wrung out of students. The only reason that life was bearable was because there were these unique outlets that allowed us to make MIT "home". If I could go back, back to a senior in High School, I would not come to MIT. I wouldn't accrue all this debt, the work, the depression, and the restrictino on our personal life that I was not promised. Everytime I see a tour guide going by, all I think about is how that the tour they are giving is not for the MIT that I live in. The MIT that they are presenting is a specter of the current school. I feel it is a lie to present hacking as this awesome medium and everything else to entice students, when really those aren't options anymore. I'm not saying that dining has caused all these feelings in me. But it's a final example of how hard the student has tried over and over to get attention and DEAN COLUMBO ignores it. Everyone knows that Dean Columbo has his own agenda, that he's pushing for what he wants. I was told this when I became president by the presidents before me. It's a common sentiment among students. For the sake of what is MIT, please, please reconsider what you are doing with this dining program. It is no longer about dining, but rather about the relationship between the administration and the student body as a whole.
  53. Raimundo K Esteva, sophomore, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:47 pm
  54. Tzu-Hsien Chan, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:47 pm
  55. Nathan Min, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:48 pm
  56. Shaena R Berlin, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:49 pm
    If I lived in a dining dorm, I would probably move out if this dining plan was adopted -- at an average of over $9 per meal, the cost would completely dwarf realistic food costs that MIT students, as self-sufficient adults, would choose to pay.

    For those people who eat breakfast, anything more than a few dollars is ridiculously expensive (not to mention all of the students who do not eat breakfast).
    La Verdes, our on-campus convenience store that is not exactly known for its low prices, offers a full egg-meat-cheese-bagel sandwich AND cup of coffee or tea for just $2.50.
    In this new dining plan, one would pay for the equivalent of over 3 complete breakfasts from LaVerdes/Dunkin Donuts/Subway! Anyone who ate three breakfasts'-worth of calories every morning would become extremely unhealthy.
    Thus, either MIT must be forcing its students to become obese, or it must be overcharging for meals.
  57. Beth E Schaffer, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  58. Yuzhi Zheng, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  59. Alisha D Lussiez, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  60. Christopher Blake Wilson, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  61. David Allen Dalrymple, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
    Mandatory dining is wrong for MIT, and introduces more problems than it solves, including serious problems like a challenge to dorm culture. The current dining system is amazingly effective and should be sustained at any cost.
  62. Andrew D Goessling, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
    Freshman coming over for dinner is an important way of integrating them into the house.
  63. Terence Hsu, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  64. Michelle L Nason, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:50 pm
  65. Jacky Lau, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:51 pm
  66. Shravas K Rao, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:51 pm
    I feel strongly about the issue.
  67. Kevin L Chou, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:52 pm
  68. Chad D Burns, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:53 pm
    If no one wants to buy your food, stop selling it. There's so many shuttles not that it's easy to get to any one of the shopping centers.
  69. Joshua B Oreman, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:53 pm
  70. Kyle M Smith, sophomore, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:54 pm
  71. William F Whitney, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:54 pm
  72. Tanya M Kortz, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:55 pm
    If I had to pay that much for food each semester, I would not be able to afford MIT. Seriously.
  73. Jessica M Noss, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:55 pm
  74. Michele Pratusevich, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:55 pm
    I don't want people moving into my non-dining dorm just because they don't want to pay. I want people to live here who want to live here for the culture and perpetuate it.
  75. Mariana Duran, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:55 pm
  76. Zachary T Steward, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:56 pm
  77. WunMin Wong, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:57 pm
  78. Jordan A Goldstein, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:57 pm
    As a randomite, I am fortunately not affected by this dining plan. Just how fortunate will depend on how this situation resolves, I suppose.
  79. Juliana Wu, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:57 pm
  80. Benjamin J Agre, junior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:57 pm
    Let MIT be MIT. We're fully grown give us some choice in the matter, don't force our hand. Let us make mistakes, let us actually figure out. I taught myself how to cook, a life skill, with this you're delaying mistakes until where theres less of a social net, until it's harder to recover.
  81. Kenneth R Schumacher, junior, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:58 pm
  82. David B Rush, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:58 pm
    Part of what defines MIT is its willingness to let students make their own choices. And I think our record is pretty clear -- it has worked out pretty well.
  83. Itaru L Hiromi, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:58 pm
  84. Lyla J Fischer, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:58 pm
  85. Cyril Lan, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:59 pm
    The MIT administration is missing the larger picture. Yes, MIT may have to charge thousands of dollars for dining not to lose money, but as a result they are giving up on student culture and happiness.
  86. Shankari V Rajagopal, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:59 pm
    I enjoy cooking for myself- I find it a cheap, healthy alternative to most of the food in dining, especially since I'm a vegetarian. As much as eople argue that dining has good vegetarian options, almost everything I've seen has been disgustingly unhealthy, and people should not be expected to live off of salad.

    That being said, I considered the $300 meal plan at Next a sunk cost, worth paying to stay here among my friends and community that I've grown to love. I hardly ever eat at dining. However, I will not be able to ignore the cost of dining with the new plan in place. I did not buy into this plan, and would be greatly saddened to leave the community I've been a part of for the past 3 years. However, it seems inevitable now, since my options have been laid out celarly by the plan: A) Stay among my friends at the cost of rethinking how I eat and how I live, in addition to a greater cost of living, or B) uproot myself from my community to be able to preserve my current lifestyle. This is not a choice students should have to make.

    I understand that this sort of change may be inevitable; however, it is tremendously unfair to those few classes (2012, 2013, 2014) who did not buy into it. Forcing this on us shows the administration's disdain for its students' lifestyles. At the very least, those 3 classes should be able to opt out of such a drastic change, in some sort of grandfather clause. In this way, the way students in dining hall dorms live, as well as dorm culture, will undergo a smoother transition, rather than the abrupt change now being forced on members of the MIT community.
  87. Mario A Scott, senior, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 5:59 pm
  88. Nora H Mallory, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:01 pm
    I lived in Next House my freshman and sophomore years and loved it there. However, I like to cook. I also like to go to office hours, which frequently occur at the same time as dining hours. Basically, I was paying a lot of money for a service I didn't use. So, even though a lot of my friends lived there and I loved my hall, I moved off campus to a place that wasn't a good fit for me at all. I ended up having some serious personal issues as a result and have since moved back on campus to a dorm whose culture I do not participate in.

    This new dining program will drive people away from dorms that would be a better fit for them simply because they don't want to pay for something they don't use. Please reconsider this plan and take into account the opinions of the students who will have to deal with it.

    Thank you.
  89. Catey L Harwell, senior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:03 pm
  90. Wissam N Jarjoui, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:03 pm
  91. Lorna A Ogolla, junior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:03 pm
  92. Rumela Das, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:04 pm
    I definitely don't think the mandatory dining is the right thing for MIT. I have always been very happy not to have to pay for any dining plan as I live in a non-dining dorm. But yes, the current dining plan did influence my choice. And doubling the cost will influence even more people's choices of dorm.

    Not only that, but it is just a constant source of unhappiness. People who have these types of dining plans can never plan to eat out or be happy about the free meals given out on campus because they'd be giving up a meal they already paid for (and this would be disastrous - how would anyone entice people to come to their events? I'm sure clubs, organizations, and companies alike are opposed to this plan - especially companies though)

    All in all, I say, good try but no thanks. This plan is just too much of a financial as well as mental burden.
  93. Nathan M Monroe, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:04 pm
  94. James I Winder, other, Senior Haus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:04 pm
    I think the petition brings up important concerns about the egalitarian nature of MIT and the desire to maintain a comfortable environment free of monetary class distinction.

    The generous food allowance from financial aid guarantees that a student will never go hungry, and in this case would also pay for the new meal plan. However, as students have a right to spend that allowance as they will, they will inevitably pursue cheaper food options to save money, whether to curb other debt, or simply add to their savings. Say I had to choose between a dormitory with a dining option of $3800/yr, and another where I might shop at Trader Joes for $2700/yr. If I value that $1100, I'd be very tempted to choose the cheaper option despite whatever culture I think is most appropriate.

    If MIT values the ability of its dormitories to maintain their strong and diversified cultures, (which is more unique than any other university I've seen so far), it would be in their best interest not to sway student's decision for housing with potential monetary incentives. The easy solution would be to ensure that any dining option not exceed the cost of other local options. The survey ranges of $1700-$2300 seems like a good place to start.

    Ideally, rent costs would be distributed across all dormitories. I expect because of rent differentials we already see students coming from 'less money' living in cheaper dorms, or living in doubles, triples, and quads when they would rather not. Adding a $1100 bonus for opting out of a meal plan will definitely exacerbate this. Don't get me wrong, I love the free market system, but leave class distinction for after college.
  95. Jonathan S Gootenberg, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:05 pm
  96. Sarah E Whiteside, senior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:06 pm
  97. Jocelin-Louise Engel, other, Zeta Beta Tau (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:08 pm
  98. Peter Tia, junior, Pi Lambda Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:08 pm
  99. Tanya X Liu, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:09 pm
  100. Kyle W Moss, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:09 pm
  101. Laila A Wahedi, senior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:11 pm
    There are also a lot of other reasons why this is harmful.
    It harms those with special dietary needs. I know they are trying to incorporate vegetarians, kosher, and halal, but there are so many other things that they are not addressing. These include people with severe allergies that can't eat food near other food, people with complicated diets like a gluten free or dairy free diet might have trouble finding food, vegans, people who choose to only eat organic. There is also the fact that people like hypoglycemics need to eat every two or so hours, and being forced to spend 18 dollars on only two meals leaves less money for smaller meals in between, not to mention the fact that if you eat six small meals a day then you are definitely not getting your money's worth out of the two required meals for freshmen. The cost is high enough to eat at a lot of restaurants, if I was going to spend that much I'd go somewhere fancier.
    Although Ramadan is going to be over the summer for the next few years, once it hits the school year again there will be another problem. Muslim students will be eating breakfast before dawn and dinner with the MSA which provides meals during Ramadan, so for a full month they will have wasted a good deal of money.
    I remember living in McCormick and liking having the community there, but because of health reasons I would definitely not have chosen to live there if I had to buy into a plan. I know of so many people who are intending to try to move out. There are kitchens there and people bond over preparing meals and eating together, this would completely take that away.

    There are so many problems with this plan that I it's hard to believe that it was ever taken seriously enough to get pushed through. No one supports it, doesn't MIT care what its students think *at all*? It's like a complete slap in the face to our senate system and demonstrates just how little the administration pays heed to student needs. For a long time I just didn't believe it was actually going to get passed so I didn't take it seriously and I'm shocked that this is apparently happening next year. It doesn't even effect me personally and I'm angry about it because it's going to be so damaging to the school I love and I know that newer generations of students aren't going to be able to experience the same dorm culture that I was able to, and because I had believed that the administration cared about us, it's disappointing to find out that they don't.
  102. Rachel F Ah Chuen, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:14 pm
  103. Eli H Ross, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:16 pm
  104. Wuqiong Fan, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:18 pm
  105. Kathleen R Geyer, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:19 pm
  106. Michelle E Szucs, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:20 pm
    The Classes of 2014 and 2015 will not have access to the lowest-cost option under the proposed plan. These two groups had no opportunity to contribute during the decision-making process, and the Class of 2014 is now being told that its input is coming too late. Since the majority of the financial burden is being placed on those who did not have a voice, I do not support this plan.
  107. Christopher M Haid, freshman, Baker (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:20 pm
    I am a freshman and, that being said, I am not used to years of the current dining system. However, I strongly oppose the new plan because it seems to be 1.) a plan that will act to the detriment of the student body and 2.) based off the incentive to generate an extra $600,000 annually. It does not make sense to me for students to have to pay extra for a plan that they do not approve of. Coming here this year, I enjoyed the freedom of managing my own finances regarding my meals. This plan takes away that freedom for many students. It also threatens the possible effect of isolating and walling off the option of particular living groups for many students. The particular example where a student loves a living group through REX and then can not live there due to financial limits is both foreseeable and an unpleasant thought.

    This plan has the potential to ruin part of what attracted me to MIT: greater independence than many other schools. I think that it is simply disrespectful to the students of MIT to implement this plan, and shows a blatant disregard for student opinion. We as MIT students are intelligent young adults and should be treated as such. We don't need a voice from above telling us to eat 3 meals a day for over $10 each. Many of us are actually intelligent enough to live on LESS than that amount.

    For the sake of what makes MIT what it is, this plan should be revised or discontinued.

    One Love,
    Chris Haid
  108. Sarah R Lund, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:20 pm
  109. Brian S Alejandro, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:22 pm
  110. Miriam L Gershenson, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:22 pm
    I'm a freshman, and apparently MIT thinks this means that I might not be capable of getting even one breakfast a week on my own. Having lived in Random for three months, I disagree. I eat three meals a day on my own time and get adequate nutrition. In fact, I'm probably more healthy that I would be if I were on one of the meal plans proposed for next year, since buying my food per item does not create a temptation to overeat.
  111. Andrew Hyer, freshman, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:22 pm
  112. Christian A Ferko, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:23 pm
  113. Nathan S Lachenmyer, graduate student, East Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:23 pm
  114. Aron Dreyfoos, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:25 pm
  115. Benjamin L Shaya, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:25 pm
  116. Todd S Layton, sophomore, MacGregor (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:26 pm
  117. Lindsay C Stone, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:26 pm
  118. Rishi V Gupta, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:27 pm
    The events I organize, such as talks with professors, work because of free food at the event. I also agree with essentially all the bullet points outlined above.
  119. Jonathan P Mailoa, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:27 pm
    Lots of my good friends will be affected by this plan. It's too expensive.
  120. Shu H Wang, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:28 pm
  121. Megan Kercher, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:29 pm
  122. Dorian A Burks, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:30 pm
    If there is to be a new dining plan, I would like a flexible option, where I would only have to pay per meal, especially since I do not plan to be eating breakfast often.
  123. Jeffrey D Chan, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:30 pm
  124. Jacob B Hurwitz, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:30 pm
  125. Rebecca L Kusko, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:31 pm
    As an undergraduate, the community in Burton-Conner and on my floor was very important for helping me deal with the stresses of MIT. While this expense would not be applied to students living in Burton-Conner, it would certainly have a negative impact on Burton-Conner and all other non dining hall dorms.

    I also strongly feel that mandatory dining is absolutely contrary to MIT's overall freespirited culture of innovation.
  126. Nicole E Berdy, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:31 pm
    I am not sure which aspect of the new plan upsets me more: that repeated student input has been repeatedly ignored, or that student input has been ignored in favor of a plan that is more expensive and takes a step towards destroying the unique cultures that make MIT so much more than other top-tier universities. I take great pride as an alum in being able to tell others about all the wonderful things that make MIT great, and I do not appreciate those wonderful things being threatened. The administration's dealings with students directly impacts my decision to donate, or not, to MIT.
  127. Russell R Cohen, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:32 pm
  128. Steven D Allen, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:32 pm
  129. Peter A Iannucci, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:33 pm
  130. Katharine L Schutz, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:33 pm
  131. Matthew A Houston, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:34 pm
    My current breakfast is a bowl of oatmeal with walnuts and craisins. It costs ~$0.50 per breakfast and takes around 2 minutes to prepare. On days when I have important presentations I eat 3 eggs scrambled--net cost: ~$0.50 prep time: 10 mins. I do not appreciate being forced to buy into a much more expansive plan to continue living with my friends next year.
  132. Dominic D Gallegos, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:36 pm
    Future pre-frosh who would otherwise choose to attend MIT may be turned off by the costly dining plan.
  133. Abir Liben, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:36 pm
  134. Ryan M King-Shepard, freshman, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:37 pm
  135. Daniel E Hyatt, senior, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:37 pm
  136. Michael W Kling, senior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:38 pm
    Freshman in our fraternity coming over to the house for dinner is very important to help integrate them into the house. This plan will only discourage freshman from coming over.
  137. Micaela M Wiseman, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:38 pm
    The new dining plan in terrible! :( Why would I wake up extra early and lose a chunk of the little sleep I already get to throw away $10 on some lame continental breakfast? When a gallon of milk and a couple boxes of cereal for the same price will last me over a week? The cost is exorbitant and NOT worth it. This plan definitely needs to be changed -- start listening to student input for once! Why are you making MIT more stressful than it already is?!
  138. Christina A Jaworsky, senior, MacGregor (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:40 pm
  139. Star A Simpson, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:40 pm
  140. Ekaterina D Paramonova, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:40 pm
    It is unacceptable to force people to pay for food that they are not going to eat- I do not eat at the dining hall of Simmons very frequently, nor do I EVER eat a long, full breakfast, other than oatmeal in the morning, so $9/breakfast (that I would not go downstairs and get) is RIDICULOUS!! One of the reasons I'm moving out to APhi... same with other people. This will ruin the culture of the dorms for some time.
  141. Jonathan Wang, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:41 pm
  142. Pei-Ann Lin, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:43 pm
  143. Jacqueline Hung, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:44 pm
    Too expensive and restricted
    I'll move out if there'll still continue the new dining plan
  144. William R Doenlen, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:44 pm
  145. Eryn D Maynard, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:46 pm
    As someone that tries to watch her spending, especially when it comes to food. I would have not even ranked a dining dorm originally if it meant that much of an excess cost. It also goes away from what I liked about living in Boston and getting to explore the new food and cultures. If I felt that all of my meals had already have been paid I wouldn't have wanted to go out and eat with friends and into the city.
  146. Miguel A Salinas, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:46 pm
  147. Marjorie G Hamilton, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:46 pm
  148. Allison M Schneider, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:46 pm
  149. Nathaniel S Fox, junior, Chi Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:47 pm
  150. Aditi Nagaraj, senior, Off Campus (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:47 pm
  151. Brandi L Crawford, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:47 pm
    I hate to categorically deny what I see as a necessary reform, but I also cannot deny that the current proposal is fundamentally flawed for the reasons stated in the petition.

    As a former resident of a dining dorm, I do not blindly protest to prevent the supposed housing influx, but because, simply put, the numbers do not "add up."
  152. Shuang Chen, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:48 pm
    Even if rising Juniors and Seniors are "grandfathered" out of this plan, it will still affect the current and future freshmen. Letting us grandfather out doesn't make the plan any more appealing.
  153. David L Crowell, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:48 pm
    As an east campus resident, I feel very strongly about the importance of a living group's cultural identity. While I understand that my dorm will not be immediately affected by the proposed dining plan, we will be very strongly affected by the influx of both freshmen and transfers who will chose to live here not because it is their best cultural fit, but because they can't afford to spend 2 to 3 times as much money on food as they need to.

    As a freshman, I spent $600 on food for both semesters and IAP. This was because I cooked for myself and took advantage of free food opportunities around campus. The prospect of paying 8 times that amount on a dining plan is absurd. A mandatory dining plan for any dorm weakens the ties between members of a living group and endangers the strongest source of both support and advising that I have found at the institute.
  154. Mark C Wittels, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:49 pm
    The most important points are already made in the petition, but I'd like to add that moving out of certain dining dorms (ahem Next House) is already really difficult. I had to wait almost a semester and a half just to get into a dorm that isn't particularly popular anyway. If this new dining plan goes through, be prepared for a huge population of people living in dorms like Next who don't want (or can't afford) to live there, but simply can't get out.
  155. Victoria S Sun, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:49 pm
  156. Emily K Lydic, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:49 pm
  157. Connie Chan, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
  158. John D Berman, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
  159. Jane S Han, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
    I love dining hall food here because it is healthy, but offering healthy food at ridiculous prices will make me eat unhealthy food at much cheaper prices. Even if I were still living in Baker and forced to pay for the proposed meal plans, I would still be eating unhealthy, because I would skip lunch to save money.
  160. Thiago A Vieira, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
  161. Albert Kao, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
  162. Kevin M Marengo, senior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:50 pm
    The new dining plan lacked transparency and will destroy dorm culture. I'm not even in a dorm and I'm worried about that because most of my friends are trying to move out of their dorms because they don't want to be forced into the new dining plan. It will also negatively affect FSILGs which is also a great concern of mine since having the new brothers over to the house for dinner is a great way to help them integrate into the brotherhood and meet the brothers. If they are forced to eat breakfast and dinner in their dorm every night, then they will not want to come to the house because they would be wasting their money on this dining plan.
  163. Caitlin P Mehl, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:52 pm
  164. Nancy R Ouyang, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:53 pm
  165. Jacob J Varley, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:53 pm
  166. Daniel M Firestone, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:53 pm
  167. Andrea M Pagan, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  168. Nicole A Bieber, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
    As a recent graduate from MIT's undergraduate program, I was around for a lot of the student unrest surrounding the dining program. I personally moved into MacGregor as a freshman primarily because it had kitchens and did not have a dining program - as a vegetarian and someone who is very selective about what I put into my body, a mandatory dining program would have been completely useless to me and the money required would have been a completely sunk cost. I appreciated that MIT gave me the freedom to choose my own meals and save a lot of money in the process (and after all, we have a grocery store only a few blocks away), and I know that were I still an undergraduate this new dining program would cost me a great deal for little to no benefit. Students are already choosing their dorms to avoid the current dining plan (as I did) - please don't make the problem worse.
    Thank you!
    Sincerely,
    Nicole Bieber
    MIT Class of 2010
  169. Albert Y Wang, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  170. Laura H Meeker, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  171. Yuanyu Chen, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  172. Andrzej Wojcieszynski, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  173. Michael A Ciuffo, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:54 pm
  174. David H Way, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:55 pm
  175. Andrew Raymond Drechsler, other, Off Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:55 pm
  176. Stanislav Nikolov, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:55 pm
  177. Bayley Z Wang, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:55 pm
    This dining plan is ineffective, unfair, and limits the abilities of students to live in the dorm the culture of which they prefer, due to financial reasons.
    MIT tuition costs enough without an extra $3000 charge!
  178. Larisa A Berger, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:56 pm
  179. Daniel D Hawkins, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:56 pm
    Read the UA DPC Report. We need to know why the solutions contained in that document were brushed aside, after much hard work was put into their generation, including a much more robust feedback-gathering process and much more transparent discussions.
  180. Hieu H Tran, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:56 pm
  181. Jennifer L Bustamante, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:57 pm
  182. Carrie Ann Brown, graduate student, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:57 pm
  183. Melissa E Ko, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:57 pm
  184. Sergei S Bernstein, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:58 pm
  185. Cameron J Tenny, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:58 pm
  186. Sarah M Don, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:58 pm
    I think people should stop being lazy and cook for themselves. I spend less than $1000 per year on food and spend less than 3 hours a week cooking.
  187. Emily E Brown, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:58 pm
  188. Chris Jongsoo Yoon, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 6:59 pm
  189. Kathleen M Harrington, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:00 pm
  190. Nicholas R Hunter-Jones, senior, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:00 pm
  191. Kathleen A Clark-Adams, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:00 pm
    Cooking and eating together was a huge part of community solidarity in East Campus. Without living in a group of people who all wanted to cook for themselves, our food groups, Thanksgiving dinners, hall feeds, and Seders would have disappeared.

    Furthermore, almost everyone who moved to our floor for reasons other than the floor culture ended up being miserable. Forcing people to live there out of financial pressure would have destroyed hall culture and wrecked their social experience at MIT.

    MIT's tradition of valuing dorm culture over dorm amenities, and of treating its students as the autonomous adults that they would be anywhere off a college campus, is what distinguishes it from other schools. It's what makes us the best. The administration needs to step back and stop trying to force us to act like other universities.
  192. John B Parkes, sophomore, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:00 pm
    MIT is extraordinary because in many ways it offers unique opportunities for its students to have responsibility. The proposed dining plan is just one more way MIT is becoming like everywhere else.
  193. Dima Ayyash, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:01 pm
  194. Rachael M Naphtal, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:01 pm
  195. Tiffany K Cheng, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:02 pm
  196. Maria R Chan, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:02 pm
  197. Ben Chun, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:02 pm
  198. Katherine E Karwoski, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:02 pm
    I feel strongly about the dining issue, especially since I believe that it will destroy the culture of dorms, as detailed above. The distinct culture of each dorm is something that makes MIT unique and exciting, and having students feel so strongly opposed to this plan as to move elsewhere would cause great disturbance and be a detriment to the MIT community. I think that all of the other points above are valid, and I'm irked that a plan could get this far when it clearly does not have student support. Please listen to the voices of the students! I keep hearing that we as MIT students are the future and leaders of tomorrow, but how can we change the world if we can't even have an impact or be heard at our own campus?
  199. Allan E Miramonti, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:03 pm
    Though I do not live in a dorm with a dining hall, I feel strongly
    that the proposed plan is not in the best interests of the
    undergraduate body as a whole. The proposed plan will harm cultures as they exist today, and put undue financial strain on those who live in dorms with dining halls.
  200. David Farhi, other, Epsilon Theta (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:03 pm
    Good luck guys!
  201. Kyle William Gilpin, graduate student, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:03 pm
    In addition to all points in the petition, I'd like to add several thoughts:
    * The dining plan is based on a flawed assumption that dining must not loose money. If it has been losing money for so many years, delaying a change in the system for further consideration will not break the bank.
    * The proposed dining plan is inefficient: There is no need for dining halls in Maseeh, Baker, and McCormick. Consolidate.
    * As a GRT at East Campus, I believe that 'community' is better built on a local scale. AYCE dining isn't going to magically bring an entire dorm together. It is far more effective to provide kitchens that build strong and supportive communities on the suite- and hall-scale.
  202. Jacob S Bailey, sophomore, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:04 pm
  203. Jason J Ashe, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:05 pm
  204. Irena T Hwang, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:05 pm
  205. Rachel C Clary, junior, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:05 pm
  206. Carmel R Dudley, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:06 pm
  207. Johanna S Chong, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:07 pm
  208. David Wilson, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:07 pm
    They've tried this every five years or so. Whenever students get up in arms, they've just waited for that crop of students to graduate and then tried again. This time HDAG tried to provide the veneer of student input necessary to give the dining plan an air of legitimacy.

    If you want to improve dining:
    -get rid of anti-competitive contracts. Why is it so difficult for anyone else to sell food in W20?
    -Start hiring students. Some of my friends worked the Pritchett grill before this practice stopped. Students are cheaper, awake when other students are awake, and answerable to other students (based on my experiences with W20 dining compared to the Pritchett grill circa 2001, they are also much more competent).
  209. Duncan C Townsend, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:08 pm
    As a resident of East Campus, I cherish my dorm's culture. The dorm culture of MIT and East Campus in particular was one of the main reasons I chose MIT over other universities.
    The new dining plan will give an incentive for people who would not meaningfully contribute to our culture to live here. We already have trouble with "ghosts" and people deciding to live in EC because it is conveniently located and less expensive than other dorms, and the new dining plan will only further exacerbate the problem.

    Respectfully yours,
    Duncan Townsend
  210. Yiwen Zhan, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:08 pm
  211. Taylor B Williamson, other, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:09 pm
  212. Alexandra M Sailsman, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
  213. Jared M Forman, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
  214. Rena J Katz, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
  215. Lawrence A Velazquez, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
    I'm not sure about whether the new plan is the "best" one for MIT, but it's clear that its development was flawed, and that many current students are extremely dissatisfied with the process and outcome.
  216. Nicholas Joliat, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
  217. Michelle A Morales, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:10 pm
  218. Harold C Low, graduate student, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:11 pm
    There are many arguments that pit this issue against Dorm Culture and the values of the MIT housing system. I support these arguments, but reiterating them here is not my purpose.

    No, this Dining Plan stands for something much more cannibalistic of MIT's culture: the notion that MIT students are not adults, that they need their hands held and their bellies fed by a nurturing overseer.

    Emerging alive and successful from MIT is the hardest challenge that many of us will face. But we conquer this beast by asserting ourselves as peers of the institute, not its babbling, if studious, children.

    The more that the administration seizes from students' control in their day-to-day lives, the less the responsibility that MIT students gain. Students regularly take care of themselves through their own means without being forced (YES, forced) to buy into a plan for meals they don't want. They do it because they have to, but also because they want to. Students with independence take care of themselves.

    In short, welcome to MIT, students. This is Big Boy School. The faster you become adults and can take care of yourselves, the better.
  219. Katherine A Wymbs, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:11 pm
  220. Joshua N Wancura, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:12 pm
  221. Kari M Williams, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:12 pm
    I lived in Bexley for several years and loved having complete control over what I ate and how much I spent on it. I try to eat local and organic when I can, and patronize the local farmers' markets and Harvest Co-op. However, I have a limited budget, so in order to eat within my ideologies, I have to be careful, and make my own choices about what I spend where. I might feel differently about this dining plan if there was a serious effort to source sustainably and provide a good selection of delicious and healthy meals to students.
    Thanks.
  222. Steven Arcangeli, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:13 pm
  223. Erica Chan, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:13 pm
    The current dining plan works well with my schedule. At least 2 days per week I have 2 seminar XL's which don't allow me to go to the dining hall. They often begin at 5 and last until 9pm. With the new dining plan, U would be charged for at least 2 dinners per week that I'm not eating. Furthermore, I often am working on problem sets in the morning or catching a little extra sleep so it's highly unlikely that I would eat breakfast at the dorm.

    I really love McCormick and I don't want to move to a different dorm. However I don't think I can afford the extra expenses that come with the new dining plan.
  224. Jessica C Agatstein, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:13 pm
    As an urban studies and planning student who values public participation and civic engagement, I find the dining plan's participatory component deeply flawed. Even the most basic implementations of a participatory and transparent planning process require that a draft plan be submitted to the affected public and following comments be taken into account in the final plan.

    But there was never a drafted dining plan available to the public for comment - even this most basic participatory effort was ignored. As a result, a great deal of potentially positive community input was neglected on the fine tunings of the plan.

    I hope in the future we can come to a consensus on dining at MIT - but for now, it should be clear that this plan resembles nothing of the sort.
  225. Ernest I Park, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:14 pm
    The main point that gets me is the cost. Right now I spend under $2500 a full school year on food. The campus dining option is asking me to spend $2900 for just 10 meals a week. I eat AT LEAST 21 meals a week. That means I'm spending over $4000 a year on food. At least $1500 more a year. Now, right now financial aid budgets about $3400 a year on food for me (based on Baker rates for a single). That means there's a deficit there of $600. Now this number is based on me being relatively frugal with my meal expenses, and I am choosing the cheapest dining option (so it is worse for younger students). That means either 1. Finaid has to increase its budget significantly to cover my food costs at which case I don't see why this money isn't pumped directly into dining to make an option more pleasing to everyone, or 2. Finaid doesn't cover this cost and the whole promise of 100% need coverage is broken.

    I agree that dining needs changes and there are many things this plan addresses that students need. But the bottom line is, everything else becomes moot if it costs too much and students and families are struggling to pay for the options. Over 60% of MIT students are on finaid of some sort and this is a ridiculous plan in terms of cost.
  226. Jacob L Austin-Breneman, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:14 pm
    I feel very strongly about this issue!
  227. Leslie C Dewan, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:14 pm
  228. Taylor J Ayral, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:15 pm
  229. Chloe M Dames, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:16 pm
  230. Julie A Moyer, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:16 pm
  231. Kelly A Ran, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:18 pm
  232. Carmen S Ng, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:18 pm
  233. Emily R Su, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:18 pm
  234. David M Lawrence, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:18 pm
    I am a member of Tau Epsilon Phi and I am very worried about the impact forced dining will have on new members who live in dorms with dining halls, but eat meals at the fraternity house.
  235. Daniel Martelly, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:19 pm
    I do not need a full breakfast in the morning. I like to have a simple bowl of cereal in my room.
  236. Julia B Sterling, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:19 pm
    We don't want this. How many times do we have to say it?

    There ARE other ways of solving this problem without financial loss to the institute OR the students, but it is totally unacceptable to make us pay because you are unwilling to make the dining system work.

    MIT gives us independence. That's one of the most important things about student life here. It lets us make decisions, and lets us grow for ourselves. It is what makes us so interesting. Please don't take that away.
  237. Benjamin Yang, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:19 pm
  238. Maja P Wichrowska, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:20 pm
  239. Matthew E Honickman, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:20 pm
  240. Qiaodan Jin Stone, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:20 pm
  241. Amie J Guo, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:20 pm
  242. Eric M Van Albert, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:22 pm
  243. Daniel P Gillund, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:22 pm
  244. Vladislav O Kontsevoi, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:23 pm
    Costs much more than I spend on money each semester.
  245. Hyunjii Cho, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:23 pm
  246. Anna Y Hsu, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:23 pm
  247. Cappie Pomeroy, sophomore, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:23 pm
  248. Stacey A Allen, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:23 pm
    If I were still living in Baker next year, I would strongly consider moving out because of the costs imposed by the new dining plan. No one seems to want it- please prove that administration indeed considers student opinion.
  249. Ilica P Mahajan, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:24 pm
  250. William A Wolstenholme, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:24 pm
    This shit is FUCKED.
  251. Fangdi Sun, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:24 pm
  252. Nahum Seifeselassie, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:24 pm
  253. Kathleen M Inman, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:24 pm
  254. Samuel W Shames, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:25 pm
  255. Anne P Runkle, junior, Alpha Chi Omega (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:25 pm
  256. Emily Kuo, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:27 pm
  257. Lauren K Gust, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:27 pm
  258. Martha M Gross, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:27 pm
  259. Tyler H Christensen, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:28 pm
  260. Diana G Wang, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:30 pm
  261. Ramya N Swamy, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:30 pm
    I must admit, when I first heard about the current dining dining system as a prospective freshman, I was confused. The system is different at other universities. However, now I wouldn't have it any other way. I love the freedom to be able to eat at the dining hall if I so choose, or make my own meals. I feel as though the administration is going through with this plan with the wrong intentions: to become more like other universities with fixed-meal dining plans and to appeal to parents (how will my son/daughter eat??).
    I simply can't afford to pay for meals I won't eat. Breakfast? Have you heard of cereal?
  262. Monica Isava, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:31 pm
    I know that I spend less than $2000 on food annually, and with this plan, I'd have to pay almost $3000 just for 10 meals a week (leaving the other half of my meals for me to pay for separately). This is extremely unfair and I hope that administration will now finally listen to student opinion
  263. Evan F Lynch, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:31 pm
  264. Paula C Gonzalez, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:32 pm
  265. Mats E Ahlgren, graduate student, Random (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:33 pm
  266. Michael B Cohen, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:33 pm
    I personally prefer not to have a meal plan, which is great as I live in East Campus (and I am glad that at least MIT is not yet threatening the non-dining dorms). But I still want the dining plan to serve the needs of the students who do want it. HDAG preferred to misuse survey data and rely on paternalistic arguments instead of actually trying to do what students wanted. Eliminating the deficit is an understandable goal, but HDAG never determined whether students would actually prefer this plan to other options such as simply doubling the preferred dining fee or offering the new plan but without breakfast (thus saving students significant amounts of money).
  267. Elizabeth J Findley, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:33 pm
  268. Arvind Thiagarajan, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:33 pm
  269. Katherine A Roe, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:33 pm
    As a member of East Campus, a nondining dorm, I feel very strongly about this issue. East Campus has a very strong culture, and something that makes my hall and the dorm in general so wonderful is that everyone who lives here REALLY wants to live here... I can't imagine the negative impact it would have on our culture if people started being forced to live here just because of dining, and not because they feel a good match with our admittedly strong culture.
  270. Giulia B Pantalone, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:34 pm
  271. Will Drevo, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:34 pm
    I truly hope that MIT realizes the financial burden and the damage to dorm culture that it will cause if it enacts this plan. Say no to this bad plan.
  272. Molly M Martin, sophomore, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:37 pm
    I am on the women's open-weight rowing team and we practice from 6:30 to 8:30 every morning. I usually go straight from the boathouse to class. Under the current proposal I will be forced to pay ~$10 a day for breakfast that I will not be able to eat. I will basically be forced to throw away money which I cannot afford to do. I am ok with a change in the dining plan as long as I will not be forced to waste money.
  273. Emma S Gargus, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:37 pm
  274. Katherine R Rudolph, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:38 pm
    Before coming to MIT, I was worried about the fact that there were no dining halls. I didn't know how I would eat. It makes sense that the administration would want to implement a more traditional dining hall system to attract new freshman, and allay the concerns of their parents. But this reasoning misses reality by a somewhat wide margin.

    The dining system that exists at MIT currently is untraditional, unique, and for me, fantastic. As a resident of a non-dining dorm, I am able to buy and cook nutritious, delicious food for myself and my friends, which is a far more beneficial skill to develop than that of going downstairs to eat dinner. At the same time, when choosing where I wanted to live, I had the opportunity to pick a residence with a dining hall, according to my personal preference. I would have been able to do so without "breaking the bank."

    What I was worried about--what I would eat, who I would eat it with--turned out not to be an issue at all. In fact, without knowing it, I stumbled into a dining system that suits me perfectly, and I believe has enough flexibility to suit all students, as it is. Change, of the drastic nature proposed by the HDAG, is not necessary.

    I do not mean to be relentlessly conservative. In general, change and innovation are good things, and we must move forward to improve. However, there is a difference between positive progress and progress for the sake of progress. Simply changing the dining system is not guaranteed to improve it.

    The only way to ascertain whether the changes made will be changes for the better is to obtain the support of those the changes will affect: us. The students. By signing this petition, I emphatically deny the administration my support for the proposed dining system.
  275. Elizabeth A Jones, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:38 pm
    If anyone in the student body actually desires for the new plan to go through and is not just apathetic about the whole thing, I haven't heard a word from them. The only people publicly supporting this new dining plan is the administration, and they should pay attention to this fact, as they are not the ones who will be affected by it. The student body has a voice, we are speaking loud and clear, and we are being ignored. The administration should thoroughly and objectively consider ALL feasible dining options before laying down the law. Thank you.
  276. Nancy Shen, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:38 pm
  277. Andrew J Shum, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:38 pm
  278. Hannah Gramling, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:39 pm
  279. Martin Goycoolea, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:39 pm
    I lived in Baker freshman year and I really appreciated the convenience of not having a mandatory meal plan. It allowed me to be more flexible with my meals, encouraged me to explore Boston, have dinner at my fraternity and helped me as a student on financial aid. Had it been more expensive, I probably would have opted out of Baker which was, in my opinion, the best dorm for me.
  280. Sylvester E Ohienmhen, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:39 pm
  281. Yingxia Wang, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:40 pm
  282. Benjamin Lerner, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:41 pm
    I wholeheartedly agree with the issues presented in this petition. These issues, which represent the opinion of a large segment of the student body, must be addressed, irrespective of the stage of implementation the current plan is at; "no matter how far down the wrong path you've gone, turn back."
  283. Carolyn Zhang, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:41 pm
  284. Jonathan E Abbott, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:41 pm
    I want to see flexibility that encourages students in non-dining dorms to be more likely to eat at the dining halls. I eat at the dining halls now, but I won't buy in next year. I can flip my own pancakes for less.

    Also, I'd like to see one dining hall open for lunch. I want a healthier alternative than fastfood selections on the west end of campus.
  285. Arthur T Astorino, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:41 pm
    Although as an applicant I had at first been concerned about the lack of an all-inclusive dining plan, after living here and experiencing MIT House Dining I loved our system. When I visited my friends at other schools, across the board I found that students wanted to opt out of their expensive, low quality meal plans as soon as they were allowed. The current House Dining system is unique in that gives student the ability to choose, and respects them as functioning adults.

    I truly hope that the new dining plan does not get passed, because otherwise I will be forced to strongly consider leaving Baker.
  286. Elizabeth L Hawkins, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:41 pm
  287. David Lee, graduate student, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:42 pm
  288. Ryan Lacey, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:43 pm
  289. Jin Stedge, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:43 pm
  290. Daniel L Katz, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:44 pm
    Please don't do this; it will be hugely disruptive to MIT's culture and the student body's disposition.
  291. Olga V Vasileva, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:44 pm
  292. Keith M Phox, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:44 pm
  293. Hui Xiao Chao, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:45 pm
    On average I spend about 5-7 dollars every day on food. The dining plan will drastically increase my budget on meals. And I don't eat dinner. In addition, all-you-can-eat is very unhealthy and it wastes resources. It will pamper the bad habitat of stuffing oneself, which will lead to an increase rate of cardiovascular disease in the future.
  294. Ashley M Nash, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:47 pm
    This plan is too expensive.
  295. Alexandra S Piotrowski, senior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:47 pm
  296. Jessica J Pourian, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:47 pm
  297. Meredith L Lis, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:48 pm
    I've always been proud about the dining situation at MIT; it gives students freedom. The way I eat at school is similar to how I plan to eat in "real life" after I graduate. I know it's unfair to expect everyone to get excited about learning life skills like preparing food for themselves, but I liked that MIT almost expected it of us anyway. Also, people that want dining hall food can get dining hall food already.
  298. Alorah M Harman, senior, Pika (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:48 pm
    HDAG's actions have been entirely inappropriate

    stop discounting valuable student feedback - any major decision affecting students must include legitimate discourse between administrators and the student body
  299. Stephanie E Moran, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:49 pm
  300. Heejung Kim, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:49 pm
    It is just too expensive.
    I am more frequent user of dining facilities, but that doesn't mean I'm okay with having to pay that much money that would basically force me to eat from dining every breakfast and dinner.
    I like McCormick. I don't want it to be an unhappy place to live.
  301. Kearabetswe Amos Mabe, other, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:50 pm
  302. Lauren B Kuntz, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:50 pm
  303. Duane C Dennis, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:51 pm
  304. Aaron M Thom, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:51 pm
    One of the things most attractive to me about MIT was the ability to have control over my diet, and to be able to share that with my friends.
  305. Daniel S Kim, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:52 pm
  306. Ester E Lomeli, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:53 pm
  307. Laura D Royden, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:53 pm
  308. Audrey L Horst, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:53 pm
  309. Tina S Hsu, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:54 pm
  310. Kathryn Olesnavage, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:55 pm
  311. Catherine Johnson, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:56 pm
  312. Anna M Holt-Gosselin, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:56 pm
    I will not be impacted by the dining, but I feel very strongly against it. I would certainly move out of Baker if I were forced to buy into this plan.
  313. Michael A Chen, junior, Zeta Beta Tau (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:56 pm
  314. Styliani Gaitani, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:56 pm
  315. David S Benhaim, sophomore, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:56 pm
  316. Samuel C Markson, junior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:57 pm
  317. Kenneth B Cooper, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:57 pm
  318. Emily W Tow, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:57 pm
    I agree with the text of the petition, and have just one thing to add: when dining-dorm residents find they can't afford the dining plan and can't get into a non-dining dorm, they will be forced to move off campus. Mass exodus from the dormitory system could cost the school an order of magnitude more than any failing dining system. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
  319. Susana S Hak, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:58 pm
    I would not voluntarily take advantage of any of the options offered by this plan, and thus I find it horribly unfair that people who live in Dining Halls would be forced to.
  320. Clarissa C Forneris, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:58 pm
  321. Emily E McDonald, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:58 pm
    Too expensive! and limits my option to take food out of the cafeteria
  322. Allison C Hinckley, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:58 pm
  323. Casey K Hua, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:58 pm
  324. Hannah F Schiller, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 7:59 pm
    This dining plan is forcing me to live off campus next year because it is way too expensive. Please reconsider the new plan.
  325. Holly, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:00 pm
    MIT dining facilities never work around the nocturnal MIT student's schedule. Occasionally "late night dining" becomes available, which is a great boon for when an all-night tooler runs out of ramen noodles, but inevitably - INEVITABLY - the "late-night" hours get scaled further and further back until the poor students have to eat dinner at the same time as their parents if they want to get fed. Then they think they might as well have stayed at home, since at least Mom doesn't overcook the chicken.

    That was just one of the millions of reasons I am opposed to a dining plan EVER HAPPENING. Thank you.
  326. Stephanie M Schafer, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:00 pm
  327. Sarah E Rumbley, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:01 pm
  328. Joan Chen, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:03 pm
  329. Lauren N Grieco, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:03 pm
    I think that the cost for this plan is absolutely ridiculous. I never eat breakfast, which means I will be losing about $9*5 meals per week that I will not even eat. Even if I did eat breakfast, there are plenty of other places around here that I could buy it for much less than $9. If lunch was included in the plan or if the dining swipes could be used in other places like the student center it might be better. But otherwise it is going to be an EXTREME waste of money for me that I cannot afford. And sadly enough I don't even think I will be able to move out because of the long line of the waiting lists to non-dining dorms. I do not want to move out of Simmons because I like it here, but I will be forced to look at other options if this dining plan is implemented. It is just way over my budget.
  330. Sara L Brockmueller, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:03 pm
  331. Jayson R Lynch, junior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:04 pm
  332. Kelly F Drinkwater, senior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:04 pm
  333. XiaoLin Shi, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:05 pm
  334. Tejas A Navaratna, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:05 pm
  335. Lena M Ziskin, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:05 pm
  336. Carmen Castanos, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:06 pm
  337. Michael S Hwang, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:06 pm
  338. Flor L De La Cruz, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:07 pm
  339. Daniel J Gonzalez, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:08 pm
  340. Khaled K Moharam, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:08 pm
  341. Andras L Kiss, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:10 pm
    We are not 5 years old. We do not need to be spoon fed.
  342. Anthony Rindone, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:10 pm
  343. Rachel M Martin, other, East Campus (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:11 pm
    I'm on medical leave for the time being, and one of the things I look forward to the most about returning is the chance of getting to live in the dorms again. However, my diet is restricted as a result of medical complications to the point that I'd be unable to eat most of the standard fare offered at dining halls; if there isn't a space for me in a non-dining dorm when I get back to the Institute, I'll need to live off-campus. Having to give up dorm culture and the chance to live with my friends and my peers because of the Institute's insistence that I pay for food I can't eat is ridiculous. I'm certain I'm not alone in this. If there MUST be a mandatory buy-in, please, please consider cases like mine and add a medical exemption to the plan.
  344. Sumi Sinha, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:12 pm
  345. Kamal K Ndousse, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:12 pm
  346. Michelle Princi, senior, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:14 pm
  347. Portia M Jones, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:14 pm
  348. Alexander M Lesman, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:14 pm
    Even though I will not be directly affected by the I think the new dining program will have strong negative impact on the entire undergraduate population.
  349. Afsah Shafquat, graduate student, Other (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:15 pm
  350. Holden Lee, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:15 pm
  351. Bari E Rosenberg, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:15 pm
    If the new dining plan is put into effect for next year, I will DEFINITELY be moving into my sorority house to avoid living in Baker.
  352. Alex J Kandell, other, East Campus (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:16 pm
  353. Logan P Williams, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:17 pm
    Dining should not be made financially tenable by taking away student freedoms.
  354. Yuri Lin, senior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:17 pm
  355. Julie Laure K Maison, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:17 pm
    (ex-resident of a dining dorm)
  356. Jacqueline A Sun, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:18 pm
  357. Cristen Blair Chinea, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:18 pm
    Your haste and sloppy conclusion baffles me. The fact that "student participation" was only mere tokenism infuriates me.
  358. Cristina M Lozano, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:18 pm
  359. Leslie L Chan, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:19 pm
  360. Jessi Ambrose, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:19 pm
    I will not donate money to MIT as long as it is spending money on this absurd and harmful plan.
  361. Daniel M Manesh, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:19 pm
  362. Eun Young Choi, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:19 pm
  363. Deborah Hanus, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:19 pm
  364. Ge Chen, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:20 pm
  365. Gabriel D Karpman, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:20 pm
  366. Owen G Rees, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:21 pm
  367. Dexter R Cogswell, junior, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:21 pm
    As a student who lived at Next House my Freshman year, I almost never used the $300 dollar dining plan. The reason was that I like to cook, and can cook meals that would cost less than anything in the Dining Hall. In addition, I went to my Fraternity to eat dinner most of the time, which was provided at no cost to 1 semester Freshman, and was less expensive than the Next House dining plan for the second semester. Not only did I get free food, instead of just half off of what I choose to get, it was of much higher quality than anything at Next House. While I simply began considering this as part of a cost of living at Next House, it was not an outrageous expenditure to ensure that I stayed at a dorm that I enjoyed. However, with this new plan, it will cost more than an extra semester of living at a dorm, which basically adds up to 2 years of rent (sans Summer rent) over the course of a standard 4 year degree.

    Despite getting a significant amount of financial aid from MIT, I try to minimize the amount of unnecessary expenditure. Even if MIT does account for this new plan in its estimated food expenditures, it does so by reducing the amount that I can spend where I choose to, thus severely limiting my choices of where I choose to eat. I also tend to not use my entire food allowances on food, which means that I get to have some small savings that allows me to handle unforeseen expenses.
  368. Tara Krishnan, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:22 pm
  369. Kathleen Matczynski, other, Kappa Alpha Theta (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:23 pm
  370. Xiang-Yu Zhou, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:24 pm
  371. Julian Lemus, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:24 pm
  372. Andy Kenny Kalenderian, junior, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:25 pm
  373. Abhimanyu Belani, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:25 pm
    I am personally worried about the effect that this plan may have on my future at MIT. I am taking Spring 2011 off to work, and plan to return in Fall 2011. If the HDAG plan is initiated, I will experience extreme difficulty returning to my current dorm and hall, because of the number of students who plan to change dorms in order to escape an expensive dining plan. This dining plan negatively affects any student who will take time off in the near future because of medical reasons, work, or academic exchange programs.

    Furthermore, I chose MIT over similarly stellar academic schools such as Stanford and Caltech because I knew that the MIT system allowed students to choose to live in the place they felt most comfortable. It was the facet of MIT that set it most apart in my view. The HDAG Dining Plan is a direct obstacle to this very characteristic part of MIT culture.
  374. Margarita A Esteban, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:26 pm
  375. Colleen A Josephson, sophomore, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:26 pm
    This isn't about the dining, this is about the fact that we spoke, MIT admins listened, and responded with "we don't care."

    This is MY school. Its not about what other schools do, or what the admins want, or what my parents want! I am 18, this is my education, MIT exists for the students! Now act that way, please.
  376. Harrison L Bralower, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:26 pm
  377. Wesam Manassra, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:27 pm
  378. Jacob L Albritton, senior, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:27 pm
  379. James N Wiken, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:28 pm
  380. Jaclyn A Konopka, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:28 pm
  381. Andrew J Wimmer, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:29 pm
  382. Kayla A Meduna, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:31 pm
  383. Varsha J Raghavan, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:31 pm
  384. Sophie L Diehl, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:31 pm
  385. Carlo R Biedenharn, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:31 pm
    Seriously, I could easily spend at most $45 per week for breakfast, lunch, and dinner by just going to the grocery story, which is what I do most of the time anyway. This plan is SO overpriced for just breakfast and dinner. Having to pay that much and still pay for lunch separately is unbelievable.
  386. Hattie Chung, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:31 pm
  387. Charles Z Liu, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:32 pm
  388. Will S Grathwohl, freshman, Burton-Conner (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:32 pm
    Nuggz
  389. Annie Huang, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:33 pm
  390. Ambar Mehta, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:34 pm
  391. Michael P Walsh, sophomore, Sigma Nu (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:34 pm
  392. Natalia A Velez-Alicea, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:36 pm
  393. Kathleen M Hoza, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:36 pm
  394. Cindy E Oh, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:36 pm
    Average 9 dollars per meal. Ridiculous.
  395. Michael T Nawrot, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:36 pm
    I agree with the stated points above; however, I also fear that the Institute's eagerness to adopt a mandatory dining plan signifies the decline of MIT's unique approach to education and college life. Whether or not dining is as critical to student culture as those of us who have signed this petition believe, by taking an approach similar to what most schools in the country offer, MIT is no longer setting standards, but merely following them. Part of my MIT pride comes from knowing that my school is so unique in every aspect. Be it dining, housing, education, research, or even campus architecture, MIT does things with a certain flair that not only distinguishes it, but makes it more enjoyable for the people who attend the Institute. If the trend of disregarding student opinion and following other schools' leads continues, MIT will no longer be a distinguished institution. Perhaps I am biased, but I feel that MIT differentiates itself from other top institutions, not by research and education, but by community. This dining plan, for the reasons stated in the petition, hurts that community; and to me, anything that hurts the community also hurts MIT in the big picture.
  396. Fiona L McCoy, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:37 pm
    Being in college is all about learning to be an adult; the current MIT dining system allows and encourages young adults to get used to feeding themselves. I tend to view grocery shopping and basic cooking as rather important life skills -- after all, how many people are going to be spoon-fed by an all-you-can eat dining system for the next 50 years??
  397. Rahul Rajagopalan, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:38 pm
  398. Alissa A Totman, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:39 pm
  399. Ruby C Maa, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:39 pm
  400. David A Benjamin, junior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:39 pm
  401. Drew M Altschul, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:40 pm
  402. Christopher P Merrill, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:40 pm
  403. Nigel C Kojimoto, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:41 pm
  404. Patrick A Hulin, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:43 pm
    When Dining Dollars were introduced in 2007, The Tech asked Rich Berlin, director of Campus Dining, whether it was a step towards a mandatory meal plan. In response, Berlin “fondly made reference to an old petition against a meal plan, signed by members of the MIT community, that he keeps in his office in a three-ring binder. “ Sadly, Berlin seems not to remember that petition anymore.
  405. Elizabeth A Jones, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:43 pm
  406. Meng Heng Touch, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:44 pm
  407. Sally P Wolfe, sophomore, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:44 pm
  408. Wennie Wang, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:45 pm
  409. Candace E Chen, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:46 pm
    As a resident of a non-dining dorm, a concern I have is people trying to move in for the sole reason of not having to pay for dining. I also agree with the fact that it will have negative impacts on FSILGs/clubs by having students be less willing to eat with their FSILGs because they'll feel bad about giving up a meal they paid so much for. However, I'd like to bring up another point: As Vice President of the class of 2014-whose main job is to promote class unity through various means such as study breaks-I want to point out that the new dining plan will also affect class bonding. Students usually see free food as an incentive to come out to class events, and the new dining plan will hamper unity among classes. Lastly, a majority of my friends are in a dining dorm, and will get screwed over because they simply can't pay for it, but they still love their dorm for its culture. This plan is wrong for students, wrong for dorm culture, and wrong for MIT.
  410. Nils F Molina, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:46 pm
    No simple reductions in this plan will make it make sense to me as a way of improving student life. It must be scrapped.
  411. Susan S Song, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:46 pm
  412. Rebecca B Colby, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:46 pm
    I find it offensive that DSL has refused to treat students as adults both by not listening to our clearly stated and well-reasoned opinions, and by assuming that we cannot take care of our own nutritional needs. I find it absurd that the meal plan, at about $9 per meal even for breakfast, is not only not competitive with my average cost per meal cooked at East Campus, but also not competitive with my average cost for meals purchased at restaurants or the student center. I find it disturbing that the mass displacement of students from dining dorms and the destruction of dorm communities and support networks is apparently not a serious concern. This dining plan is a failure.
  413. Xiyue Gao, senior, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:48 pm
  414. Meena L Viswanath, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:49 pm
  415. Elena L Glassman, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:50 pm
  416. Russell J Ryan, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:50 pm
  417. Paula C Trepman, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:50 pm
  418. Caroline M Figgatt, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:53 pm
    Over my four years here, time and time again I have witnessed the tendency of the MIT administration to pretend to listen to students, and then ignore our concerns and do what they want to regardless. This dining plan is no exception. For just once, listen to our views and realize that we understand our own living situations far better than you possibly can, and should have the primary voice in decisions about dining rather than being ignored, since we're the ones who have to put up with whatever bullshit the admins dream up. MIT students are adults capable of managing their own food consumption and making their own decisions about what sorts of food options they want on campus at what cost. Stop treating us like children.
  419. Rachel H Keeler, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:55 pm
  420. Charles B Barr, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:57 pm
  421. Amelia B Carver, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:58 pm
  422. Daniel Heins, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:58 pm
  423. Alejandro N Dos Reis, junior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:58 pm
  424. Geza Kovacs, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:59 pm
  425. Daniel A Heins, freshman, Burton-Conner (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:59 pm
  426. Jonathan B Estrada, senior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:59 pm
  427. Daniella C Bardalez Gagliuffi, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 8:59 pm
  428. Camille L M Everhart, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:01 pm
    There is a lot of worry that the new dining plan will not only segregate students based on wealth, but ruin dorm culture. The quirky dorm-life not only keeps MIT wonderful, but survivable. Until the institution can create a plan that will be large enough to support the majority of it's students (being open for MIT-student friendly hours, and large enough to cover a wide variety of tastes), it shouldn't be created.
  429. Ricardo A Ramos Martin, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:01 pm
  430. David C Parell, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:03 pm
  431. Diony H Rosa, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:04 pm
  432. Christian L Welch, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:04 pm
  433. Kimberly A Barker, sophomore, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:05 pm
  434. Laura C Shumaker, junior, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:05 pm
    I LIKE to cook my own meals. I LIKE to hang out in the kitchen - that's often where I catch up with people. Before I lived in East Campus, I was a resident of MacGregor, and I consistently went to McCormick at mealtimes... NOT to buy food, but to use their beautiful kitchens to cook in with people I knew (and sometimes had just met). Living with a mandatory dining hall would have robbed me of the opportunity to make friends in a self-sufficient way.
  435. Colin Beckwitt, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:05 pm
    The plan is extremely overpriced by about 30%
  436. Cody D Feldhaus, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:06 pm
  437. Alina Kononov, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:07 pm
    This plan would make dining options critical in a freshman's housing decision. Having just participated in dorm rush, I think that's absurd. The only criteria should be dorm culture: who your family will be for the next four years. Would you pick your best friend based on where he/she eats? It's wrong and unnatural.
  438. Molly A Kozminsky, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:07 pm
  439. Anna D Dikina, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:08 pm
  440. Tyler B Williams, other, Bexley (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:09 pm
    The administration is notorious for ignoring students on issues of campus life! Please help make MIT a better place to live by taking student input and stopping this dining plan from continuing. It's not fair to students and it won't solve the problems with dining.

    Empowering the MIT student body and encouraging student input (leading to more self-governance) is the *only* way to make the campus a better place to live.
  441. Sarah E Lehmann, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:09 pm
  442. Evelyn Tio, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:11 pm
  443. David S Greenberg, senior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:11 pm
  444. Katherine Y Fang, sophomore, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:13 pm
  445. Isra Shabir, freshman, MacGregor (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:15 pm
    I believe everyone here at MIT is capable of taking care of things like food etc, and there is not MUCH need of such an action.
    Moreover, MIT never had a dining plan earlier, and all these years people survived perfectly! (or at least most did)
  446. Edward E Whittemore, junior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:15 pm
  447. Angela Chang, graduate student, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:16 pm
    Every single year that I've been part of MIT (since 1993), I have heard of similar mandatory dining proposals. They've all been implemented to a degree and failed because of competition between MIT's dining plan and the rest of Boston (where people can find cheap, varied, and internet-available deliveries) A mandatory mealplan may not profitable, but wasteful since students are going to want to take the other easily available options. Mandatory dining plans create a lot of wasted food (uneaten), wasted workers & compensation for them (are you going to staff all the halls during holidays), more quality control and more management in order to provide a service that people probably won't use at any level of capacity to be sustainable and profitable?
  448. Jia Zhu, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:16 pm
  449. Alexandra Jiang, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:16 pm
  450. Arturo S Campos, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:17 pm
  451. Maria Kulikova, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:17 pm
    This year, MIT financial aid allocated $4350/year for food. Even the most expensive 14-meal dining plan is cheaper than that. MIT is not going to give those of us on finaid more money to accomodate the dining plan - exactly because of this. The plan is way too expensive.
  452. Christopher B Rullan, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:18 pm
  453. Michael B Riegelhaupt, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:19 pm
  454. Thomas D Roberts, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:20 pm
    I think it's a bit unfair to saddle people with these, well, unfunded mandates--particularly in this economic climate. I am most perturbed by the categorical dismissal of student input, and I sincerely hope this will be a step toward changing that.
  455. Kyle A Miller, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:21 pm
    As it is, recruiting new members is difficult because freshmen are forced to live on campus. Dinner is one of the ways new members get to know our community better, and if freshmen are incentivized even more to just stay on campus, I'm afraid we'll have a hard time getting them over so that they remain excited about joining our community.

    And, the argument that, in four years, new students won't know any better disgusts me. It is our duty to make sure that the undergraduate program at the Institute continues down a path which we think appropriate.

    Also, the argument that a meal plan would assuage the fears that many prospectives have, while true, is missing the point. I came to MIT to be independent, not to have new parents. And, I don't want more students at MIT who think it is the role of MIT to be parent.
  456. David M Ramirez, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:21 pm
  457. Chelsea B Finn, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:21 pm
  458. Lily A Xu, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:22 pm
  459. David A Luciano, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:22 pm
  460. Stephanie A Thompson, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:22 pm
  461. Joshua Dudley, other, East Campus (parent)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:22 pm
    My daughter's experience of MIT was strongly and positively shaped by taking care of her own meals at her residence hall (East Campus) -- it was also dramatically less expensive, and possibly healthier, than the meal-plan options available.
  462. Kelden M Pehr, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:23 pm
  463. Christopher D Gerber, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:26 pm
  464. Rebecca J Greene, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:26 pm
  465. Timur Balbekov, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:26 pm
  466. Tara P Ebsworth, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:29 pm
    I live in a non-dining dorm but I like the current dining plan because it allows me to get dinner on most nights of the week when I have a lot of work and don't have time to shop for food and cook for myself, and it also gives me the freedom to cook on my floor when I want to without feeling like I'm wasting money by not taking advantage of the meal plan that day. I like cooking on my floor on the weekends because I can hang out and bond with my floormates.
  467. Nicholas J Chornay, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:29 pm
    A successful dining program would be one that students voluntarily opt in to. If making a dining program mandatory and extremely expensive is the only way for it to be sustainable, something is clearly being done wrong.

    In pursuing this, the administration has shown an utter disregard for student opinion and well being. Carrying these plans forward represents the loss of an extremely important aspect of MIT's culture.

    As a student who greatly appreciates many aspects of this institution, I am very sorry to see the direction it is heading.
  468. Samuel M Meyer, other, Other (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:31 pm
    I empathize with all students who will be affected by this plan and the degradation of culture it will cause. It saddens me to think of the effects on dorms whose culture revolves in part around the cooking and procurement of food outside of dining halls as well as on fraternities who bond over meals with house-dwelling and dorm-dwelling brothers and guests. As others have said, the fact that this dining plan must be mandatory to be financially stable speaks strongly towards its inadequacy. I sincerely hope that the MIT administration reconsiders its position and moves towards a plan more in line with the values and interests of all at the Institute.
  469. Jose R Pacheco, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:31 pm
  470. Anna L Merrifield, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:31 pm
  471. Nyasha Madziva, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:32 pm
    It's really expensive, and if the plan is passed through, I will be forced to move out of Baker.
  472. Catherine E Koch, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:32 pm
  473. Joseph Timothy Foley, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:32 pm
    MIT prides itself on doing things "a little different." It's on the marketing material that we give out to parents and incoming students. Every time I hear about trying to build a mandatory (or almost mandatory) dining system on campus, it depresses me because other schools do this with consistently the same result in the long term: food quality suffers, costs go up, and in the worst case both occur. The danger hidden beneath is when mandatory dining is consistently used as an excuse to cut funding for maintenance of existing self-cooking facilities. When this occurs, we are taking away the valuable learning experience of self-reliance for those who wish it. Mandatory dining plans get students into an unhealthy cycle of dependence for nourishment. We will be making next generation of fat needy students if we don't give them the resources and motivation needed for independence through cooking. Imagine an entire generation choosing the convenient, easy food of MacDonalds and HungryMan TV dinners....
  474. Min-Ching Tio, other, Other (parent)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:34 pm
    The students should have their own choice of dining plan.
  475. Tanmay Kumar, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:34 pm
  476. Tyler R Mehrman, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:34 pm
    Please open your minds and listen to what people have to say; a dining plan, no matter how great, will not succeed without the support of the student body.
  477. Allison Moberger, other, MacGregor (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:34 pm
    MIT prides itself on the independence it grants its students to choose their own college experience; no other college gives its students the freedom to find a dorm that fits their personality. The freedom to choose a dining option that fits a student's habits is likewise an important right and one that puts MIT above other schools. Forcing students to buy into a mandatory meal plan would take away one of the things that makes MIT so special. We're smart kids - let us have our freedom and make our own decisions.
  478. Alan Q Huang, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:36 pm
  479. Jorge K Pinera, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:37 pm
  480. Brian M Iglesias, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:37 pm
  481. Anton Mazurenko, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:38 pm
  482. Sophie M Monahan, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:39 pm
    I am a student who often hosts prefrosh. One of the things I strongly recommend to them is the housing system at MIT, which allows a great deal of student choice and gives us a home and a community which are crucial in the intense environment of MIT. As a resident of a non-dining dorm, I also espouse the virtues of cooking for one's self. I know that by cooking for myself, I save a lot of money and I know that I am eating healthily-- I see all the ingredients going into my body. The new dining system will very badly affect dorm life by segregating students according to eating habits and wealth rather than by general compatibility. I oppose this plan as a student, as an athlete, as a member of the community, as a soon-to-be alum, and as a grown-up who finds paternalistic treatment of fellow grown-ups uncomfortable. I hope that I can continue to recommend the unique and fitting student life at MIT.
  483. Gary Levin, other, Other (parent)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:39 pm
    It does seem that MIT is forcing its students to accept an expensive plan. There are limited on-campus dorms that are off the dining plan. What happens to the dining plan dorms if students decide they cannot afford the additional cost? (The tuition is already quite a strain on the budget. This is piling Pelion on Ossa.)

    Also, the argument vis a vis breakfast seems to ignore the fact that many students live a shifted day, staying up most of the night to get their work done and then sleeping through breakfast. To charge them for breakfast seems rather unfair.
  484. Priscilla N Soto, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
  485. Connor R Kirschbaum, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
  486. Michelle Bentivegna, senior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
  487. Helena Liu, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
  488. Isabella C Wei, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
    Recently my friends and I have been discussing whether or not we would like to stay in Next House, and to my dismay everyone was thinking of moving out. When I asked them where they would move to, they all said they had no idea but a non-dining dorm. I feel that it is a serious issue when next school year everyone will be trying to move into non-dining dorms without considering the culture or the people of the dorm they might end up in. I remember at the beginning of freshman year all the upperclassmen told me to choose a dorm carefully and make sure I liked the people who lived around me because otherwise my living community would put a damper on my undergraduate experience at MIT. If next year financial incentives outweigh all other reasons for choosing a dorm, an integral part of the undergraduate experience at MIT would be lost.
  489. Amy M LeMessurier, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:42 pm
  490. Donald B Guy, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:44 pm
    I care more about the ignoring of student opinion than the actual issue at this point.


    There is a legitimate extent to which there can be a claim made that student opinion is simply not being reasonable/realistic. If that is the case, however, it should be stated explicitly and supported with facts. Disregarding student opinion is bad, ignoring it entirely is worse.

    We are smart people. You can work with us.
  491. Benjamin P Lehnert, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:44 pm
  492. Justin R Gallagher, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:44 pm
  493. Heewoo Kim, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:44 pm
  494. Praveen Subramani, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:44 pm
    Charging students for the financial shortcomings of the current dining system is not a viable strategy for the future success of dining at MIT. As a former resident of Burton Conner for four years, I understand the grave situation of campus dining and sympathize with the sentiment to take action and create a lasting legacy, but this is not the correct move due to the exorbitant price per meal and the disruption of dorm culture described above.

    I propose that we invite new food trucks to situate along Amherst Alley, Vassar St, and/or Ames St at nighttime. Trucks (especially the newly improved Momogoose and Clover) do a great job of keeping the Kendall Square area well fed for a reasonable price ($5) for lunch. Why is this model not extensible to dinner at no cost to MIT?
  495. Alexandra M Westbrook, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:45 pm
  496. Aditya S Kalluri, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:46 pm
  497. Justin J Schmelzer, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:46 pm
  498. Kevin A Fischer, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:47 pm
    The dining issue to me represents an infringement on student choice. I came to MIT because of the freedom the student body had as well as the options. I fear that the dining plan is a step in a direction to destroy much of MIT's tradition and the students' freedom.
  499. Daniel H Fourie, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:47 pm
    Stop the rfp process
  500. Elena A Tatarchenko, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:48 pm
    I've been a member of the varsity fencing team and it's incredibly rare (maybe once every two weeks) that I'm able to eat at my dinning as it is, the plan would make it impossible for me to stay at my current dorm. The only way I would even consider this policy is if dinner was open until 9 or 10 pm.
  501. Cathy Tio, other, Other (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:48 pm
    As a sister of an MIT alumnus and current MIT student, I oppose this mandatory dining plan for the above reasons.
  502. Jacqueline Tio, other, McCormick (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:48 pm
    I strongly believe in giving students the dining plan or non-dining plan option within the dorm system. This was one of the highlights of MIT when I was there, as compared to other colleges on the east and west coast. Making dining a "commitment" rather than a choice creates, I believe, the wrong sense of how a dining program should achieve "sustainability." And, not every student will have the luxury of being able to catch 2 meals a day in one place. I've always appreciated MIT's straightforward and candid approach to handling any decision --- and I hope it will be straightforward and candid in assessing the true costs to the students of the proposed plan presented here.
  503. Stephanie F Chan, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:48 pm
  504. Evan P Wang, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:49 pm
    Mandatory breakfasts still remain an issue; the cost of having 6 or 7 breakfasts a week is a major disincentive in this new plan, or else I would have entertained the thought of moving into a dorm with a dining plan.
  505. Romi S Kadri, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:49 pm
    The new plan is ridiculous for all of the reasons above, and fundamentally removes a significant element of freedom that presently exists within undergraduate student life. This is not acceptable by any means.
  506. Geoff Schmidt, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:50 pm
  507. Brian T Basham, junior, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:51 pm
  508. Victor E Cary, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:51 pm
  509. Max M Nelson, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:53 pm
  510. Nancy Z Chen, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:54 pm
  511. Andrew C Yang, sophomore, MacGregor (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:55 pm
  512. Lawrence Andrew Whisenant, junior, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:55 pm
  513. Hillary E Jenny, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:56 pm
  514. Aaron J Cruz, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:57 pm
  515. Sarah C Vega, senior, Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:58 pm
  516. Thomas B Thompson, sophomore, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 9:59 pm
    Student opinion should be the PRIMARY deciding factor in a decision that affects students. The administration is behaving childishly.
  517. Manishika P Agaskar, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:00 pm
  518. Jeffrey H Lin, sophomore, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:00 pm
  519. Nilu Zhao, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:01 pm
    too expensive
    sometimse don't eat breakfast
    sometimes dine out
    doesn't fit dinning style
  520. Shuo Wang, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:01 pm
  521. Noel Hollingsworth, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:01 pm
  522. Kevin W Wong, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:01 pm
  523. Angel Yang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:02 pm
    I think the new dining plan is unfair to the student body and is going to seriously affect the dorm culture. I know a lot of friends who are planning on moving away from Next house because it's a dining dorm. On the other hand, I also think the pricing is completely unreasonable. $9 for breakfast and $11 for dinner? It's not just a little absurd. I understand it's supposed to be all-you-can-eat, but I don't understand why it HAS to be all-you-can-eat. It'll just end up being wasteful and I know I for one can't eat as much as the $9 and $11 allow me.
  524. David P Huang, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:02 pm
  525. Pangus Ho, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:03 pm
  526. Dr. Joseph Kaye, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:04 pm
    This is a poor decision. Don't do it.
  527. Katharine Luginbuhl, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:04 pm
  528. Alessandro Chiesa, other, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:04 pm
  529. Miriam E Zachau Walker, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:05 pm
    I agree with most of the things stated here, including the fact that I believe this dining plan is not right for me, my dorm (Next), or MIT as a whole. I also believe that a grandfather clause is just a band-aid and won't solve the overall issue, but will ease the transition. It will make many of the current students happier, especially during the transition period, but it is not a real solution to dining at MIT.
  530. Eric Downes, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:05 pm
  531. Ho Chit Siu, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:06 pm
  532. Katy I Gero, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:06 pm
  533. Yanping Chen, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:07 pm
    This cost is outrageous, especially since
    first, I probably won't be eating at dining for breakfast... at all, since I already make my own breakfast.
    Second, breakfast for $10!?
    Third, because I will not usually eat at breakfast, this essentially means I'm paying $20 per meal. I highly doubt the quality of the food will justify paying $20.

    Finally, note that this will turn new students away from MIT. Part of the reasons I picked MIT is the open, cafeteria style of dining, and the freedoms with it. This removes those freedoms and increases the tuition by a good $4000.
  534. Liza C Xu, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:08 pm
  535. James R McKinney, sophomore, Chi Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:08 pm
  536. Cameron T French, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:08 pm
  537. Shawn S Westerdale, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:08 pm
  538. Kimberly D Santos, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:09 pm
  539. Douglas O Sanchez, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:09 pm
  540. Bojan Joveski, sophomore, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:10 pm
  541. Adam K Strandberg, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:10 pm
  542. Michael P Roberts, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:10 pm
  543. Anna Teytelman, graduate student, Other (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:10 pm
  544. David M Campos, sophomore, Chi Phi (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:10 pm
  545. Sae Kyoung Jang, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:11 pm
  546. Allison Z Koenecke, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:11 pm
  547. Madeleine Sheldon-Dante, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:12 pm
  548. Lauren M Chilton, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:12 pm
  549. Brian T Neltner, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:12 pm
    This will be a disaster, except for destroying dorm and FSILG culture at MIT, which seems more and more clearly to be the ultimate goal of the MIT administration. MIT should not be like Harvard.

    Further, from a more practical standpoint, have you *seen* the cafeteria at BU? I have. That one is amazing, has many, many choices, and is included in entirety in their meal plan. Have MIT make every restaurant in the student center, the coffee shops around campus, the bio cafe, and the Coop Food Court totally free for students, and then let's talk... no one eats at their dorm cafeteria because it is:

    1. far away from classes
    2. poor quality and limited choices
    3. more expensive than making your own food.

    I also very much agree with the statement that it is bad for MIT to encourage class segregation by dormitory.

    I donated $1000 to MIT and more to my fraternity this year. If this sort of thing is taking place, I will be inclined to donate that money to my fraternity to help subsidize giving freshmen on campus free food instead of donating to MIT at all.
  550. Jessica Chen, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:13 pm
    How many more times do we have to say that we don't agree until they believe we don't agree?
  551. Jesse D Triplett, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:14 pm
  552. Pnina Talias, senior, Other (parent)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:14 pm
  553. Caroline H Hunting, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:14 pm
  554. Moya Chin, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:15 pm
  555. Del Merritt, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:15 pm
    BWIWAF (Back When I Was A Freshman) one of the reasons I looked at the FSLIG system so seriously was that there was a good value in the meals along with flexibility - this of course held true in other areas. The on-campus foold option simply didn't offer choices that met with my dietary desires and needs. It sounds like that is still the case.

    It's 2010 folks - three decades since I was there - and it seems you need some real help fixing this. Make it a course XV lab or something, but don't be stupid. Leave that to the liberal art colleges, eh?
  556. Lindsey Y Shi, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:15 pm
    There's really nothing for me to write in this box that other people haven't said already, probably in better ways than I could.

    No disrespect meant, but I'm really tired of this being an issue. Please find a way to fix the plan so that my friends don't have to move out. I'll even help you, if you want my input.

    Hopefully this will all work out, ^_^"
  557. Brendan F Liu, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:15 pm
  558. Yun Xue, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:15 pm
  559. Sarah M Abraham, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:16 pm
  560. Jennifer Hsu, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:18 pm
  561. Kim Falinski, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:18 pm
    I specifically reject this proposal on the grounds that it will negatively effect FSILGs. For over a decade, it appears that MIT is trying to treat more and more students as children who need decisions made for them. My greatest joy as an undergrad was being able to choose where to eat. I chose MIT, in part, because it treated me like an adult.

    Please reconsider this so that I can recommend MIT to my students with pride.
  562. Christopher A Kelly, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:18 pm
  563. Daniel S Bulmash, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:18 pm
  564. Colin S McSwiggen, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:19 pm
    The new dining plan is pretty asinine.
  565. Anna Fung, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:20 pm
  566. Sarah K Ferguson, junior, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:20 pm
  567. Krista Speroni, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:21 pm
    Cooking for myself is healthier and cheaper than any possible dining plan MIT could offer. Also my schedule doesn't allow for eating dinner at the same time in the same place every day...
  568. Happy S Enchill, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:21 pm
    Other than the fact that this will encourage students to move out of dorms and go off campus, I feel like such a plan would discourage students from exploring their community. I personally think that the only time I get to explore Cambridge or Boston, is when I'm searching for a place to eat, so its very important that students are not restricted in anyway when it comes to dining. Also, this dining plan is a lot more expensive than buying groceries and cooking your own food.
  569. Shadman Torofder, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:22 pm
    It's too costly.
  570. Garrett R Fritz, senior, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:22 pm
    As president of Sigma Nu and an officer of the Interfraternity Council's executive committee, I see this as a poorly constructed plan and recommend re-evaluation.
  571. Kerry K Xing, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:24 pm
  572. Blair J Gagnon, sophomore, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:24 pm
  573. Paul W Hemberger, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:25 pm
    What's breakfast and why should I pay for it?
  574. Haoyi Li, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:25 pm
  575. Nathaniel Sheppard, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:25 pm
  576. Yi-An Lai, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
  577. Christopher S Dessonville, sophomore, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
  578. Anna R Falvello Tomas, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
  579. Emily L Jackson, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
    I don't want to be required to purchase breakfast every day (I spend less than $5/day on breakfast currently), and I don't want to be forced to eat in the dining hall for 5 meals a week. I would like to move out of Next House into a non-dining dorm; however, I will be a senior next year and moving to a new dorm would mean not getting priority in choosing a room and would mean leaving the community I've become a part of in Next House. Current sophomores and juniors should be allowed to opt out of the plan if it is implemented. We shouldn't be forced to choose between paying into a dining plan we don't like and moving out of community we've been a part of for 2 or 3 years.
  580. Amy Qian, senior, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
    I simply do not understand why this issue cannot be tackled at its root, or if the administration can even present the real issue at hand. If the issue is that dining loses money, and the solution is to milk more money from students, then the problem must be that students are currently not paying enough for food, which is plainly not the case. There must be a better explanation. Its embarrassing, really, that this world class problem solving institution can't set this straight. Responsible members of the administration need to put in the effort to solve the real problem, not slap on an easy patch with blatant disregard for how that will affect the MIT community.
  581. Shelly Jin, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:26 pm
  582. Suan L Tuang, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:27 pm
  583. Lucas Tambasco, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:27 pm
  584. Helen T D'Couto, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:28 pm
  585. Elise T Hens, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:29 pm
    I can not afford this plan and will be forced to move off campus. Also, I don't use the dining plan that we have now, and I would not use and extended plan the way that is being proposed.
  586. Sam Glidden, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:29 pm
    College students aren't babies. It's educational to be responsible for your own food. It is ridiculous to suggest that MIT students could graduate without having learned how to buy, prepare, and eat food like an independent adult. Forcing a meal plan would imply just that.
  587. Joshua D Cohen, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:29 pm
  588. George H Bailey, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:30 pm
  589. Ziwei Hao, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:30 pm
  590. Nathan M Robert, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:31 pm
  591. Cesilia K Kim, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:32 pm
  592. Wen Chyan, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:32 pm
  593. Anand D Oza, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:32 pm
  594. Taylor R Jay, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:33 pm
  595. Sari A Canelake, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:33 pm
    I am particularly concerned about the impact this plan will have on student life groups. As a member and former leader of a few student groups, we have always planned general-body meetings and freshman-recruitment events on weeknights with the promise of free food; often, it is this food that ultimately convinces hosed members to come to the meetings ("Well, I need to work... but I'll count my club meeting as a dinner break, huzzah!"); forcing freshmen to eat at dorms will hinder our recruitment efforts and ultimately may herald the demise of many smaller student groups.

    As a former Senior House and East Campus resident I'm also concerned with the negative effect on our cultures. I know many frosh already come to live at our dorms because we have much higher rates of freshmen-in-singles than many of the West Campus dorms; however they do not participate in our dorms' cultures, rather spending their time elsewhere and making some halls very quiet and lonely for the residents who live there.

    Finally I am OUTRAGED over HDAG's refusal to listen to student input. I followed the Housing IdeaBank when it was up and voted on proposals. I have signed petitions and helped stage protests. Whatever they might say, they have NOT been fully listening to student input. The Discussion section on Student Input in this petition says everything I think much better than I could phrase it, but that section is very correct and makes me very angry.

    I fully support this petition; HDAG needs to rethink the dining proposal IMMEDIATELY.
  596. Taylor Rajack, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:33 pm
  597. Jessica Lin, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:34 pm
    One issue I haven't heard much about, but think could be important, is the potential effect of the dining plan on prospective students' decisions to attend MIT. Colleges advertise their dining offerings for a reason. Given our current dissent, prospectives who are mildly interested in what campus life is like here will hear about our unhappiness with the plan. Even if they don't, they'll undoubtedly compare living costs and quality at the colleges they've been accepted to.

    I recall friends in high school returning from college visits raving about the food options at some or complaining about the high prices and so-so quality at others. The freedom of choice in dining at MIT was certainly a big draw for me, and it seemed to represent a general attitude that students here are trusted to make choices about their lives. The ubiquitous kitchens of Burton Conner drew me to reside here, and I feel lucky not to have to swap my weekly forays to Trader Joe's (under $40 for a healthy week of delicious food, much of it organic or sustainably sourced!) for daily schleps to a dining hall at specified times. (I often have to bring dinner to campus, since I get back to my dorm quite late sometimes.)

    Food, being central to our daily lives, is not a trivial issue. Perhaps this plan will make MIT more appealing to some (since there are indeed going to be more options, such as all-you-care-to-eat, etc.), but I'm worried that in the short term, those who learn of the relatively high cost of the new plan, and perhaps experience the mediocre quality of dining during CPW, and hear of rumors that dorm culture will be significantly impacted (especially if they really want to live in one of the non-dining hall dorms, and now think it will be difficult to lottery into them), might be turned away. In the long term, the concerns expressed in this petition may come to haunt us.
  598. Donald S Kovach, junior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:34 pm
    I think the cost of this plan is absurd. As long as I have the choice, I will not consider living in a compulsory dining dorm. I think forcing this plan on students who have already chosen to live in dining dorms, without the expectation of this enormous cost, is extremely unfair. I agree with most of the points made above.
  599. Qingnan Li, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:35 pm
  600. Laura C Martini, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:35 pm
    It is clear to me that MIT has disregarded student opinion in order to push through this plan.

    I will not be giving any more money to MIT until I feel student input has been more fully considered.
  601. Vivian, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:35 pm
  602. Amy L Greene, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:36 pm
  603. Eric Chang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:37 pm
  604. Elizabeth M Pula, senior, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:37 pm
  605. Illan F Halpern, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:38 pm
    I think it is too expensive. It would only be a viable option if financial aid was also icreased.
  606. Ashley N Mobbs, senior, Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:38 pm
  607. Erin B Kenney, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:39 pm
  608. Eli S Kosminsky, sophomore, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:40 pm
  609. Anna C Haas, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:40 pm
    This plan is ridiculously expensive.
  610. Haozhi Lin, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:40 pm
  611. Joshua E Siegel, senior, Alpha Epsilon Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:40 pm
  612. Kathryn Schumacher, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:40 pm
  613. Ian McKay, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:41 pm
  614. Ahmed M Hussain, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:42 pm
    The fact that there is not even a grandfather clause to allow current students to opt-out truly shows that MIT has money, not integrity or the best interest of the students, in mind.

    I cannot reconcile this egregious fleecing with donating to MIT in the future.
  615. Rose G Feldman, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:44 pm
  616. Susan M Territo, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:45 pm
  617. Scott M Bezek, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:45 pm
    The new dining plan feels like a bait-and-switch. I moved into Next House under the current dining system with no indication that it would be so drastically changed on me. The administration has simply shifted its budget deficit to the students by forcing them into a plan that they don't want, despite there being other alternatives (such as the UA's previous recommendation - http://web.mit.edu/ua/docs/dpc-reports/Final%20DPC%20Report.pdf). I oppose the plan for these reasons:

    1) I enjoy the freedom to eat elsewhere from time to time, or have a nice dinner in Boston on the weekends. With such an expensive mandatory plan, I fear students will become more sheltered and less cultured as they have a financial incentive to never leave their dorms.

    2) The assertion that I can simply switch dorms to avoid the costly new plan is completely flawed. As a senior next year, I will have the opportunity to pick one of the best and biggest rooms in all of Next House. However, if I move to another dorm because of dining, I will not have the choice of the best rooms as a "move-in" student during their housing lottery. Furthermore, I chose Next House not just because of dining, so asking me to move out over this issue is unreasonable.

    3) I understand that things need to change for dining to be sustainable, but any reasonable business would understand that deficits mean cost cuts or efficiency improvements. The administration, however, with dictatorial power, has ignored normal capitalistic reasoning and decided that the way to cure a deficit is by expanding services (i.e. adding breakfast and all-you-can-eat options) paid for by mandatory involvement.

    As Milton Friedman has said "There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. [...] You can spend your own money on somebody else. [...] I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. [...] Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get." This is the problem when you remove free market incentives from the system. With a mandatory plan, those who control the money have no vested interest in the outcome, so poor choices are made, leading to suboptimal outcomes.

    These are the reasons I am signing this petition. This plan is simply unacceptable from a cultural, social, and economic standpoint. It either needs a major overhaul or it needs to be scrapped altogether.
  618. Tana Wattanawaroon, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:46 pm
  619. Marie C McGraw, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:46 pm
  620. Dalitso Nkhoma, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:46 pm
  621. Frederick M Moore, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:47 pm
  622. Alexander R Johnson, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:49 pm
  623. Nathaniel Jay T Salazar, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:49 pm
    Even though I will be graduating this year and the plan does not affect me, I am still outraged by this issue. It is so clear that the dining plan is overpriced and by forcing it upon the students just continues the growing trend that MIT has been showing in ignoring the interests of its students.
  624. Melissa P Hunt, junior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:50 pm
  625. Ian S Osborn, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:51 pm
  626. Erica L. Cooper, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:52 pm
    As an alum, I find the cooking skills that I gained as an undergrad to be particularly useful now that I live on my own. Cooking is also an important part of social life at East Campus. Students do not need this overpriced dining plan to be able to feed and take care of themselves.
  627. Keshav Dhandhania, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:52 pm
    The cost of the plan is too high, and I do not usually eat in the dorm dining. If the plan goes through, I have no option but to move out.
  628. Jing Jing Gong, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:53 pm
    Frankly, I don't really use the dining services often now, but I've reallly built up a close community of friends at next house, and now we're kind of forced to disintegrate if the dining plan takes effect. Many of my close friends at Next are planning to move into apartments, but for me that may not be financially feasible.

    I average 10 dollars per day on my meals total, which is at least half of what the proposed dining plan offers. I don't think it will benefit me at all, and I am quite disappointed that I now have to stress about something else other than academics.
  629. Neil T Forrester, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:53 pm
    This entire debate would go away if you simply make participation optional! Everybody would be happy!

    Making it optional plays to the fundamental nature of capitalism: Things people like thrive! Things people don't like die.
  630. Tim B Grejtak, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:54 pm
    In my time spent here at MIT, I've lived quite comfortably in Burton Conner, my fraternity Pi Lambda Phi, and now off-campus by Central Square. In each case, where I and how I ate was central to my positive experience there. While I cannot speak for the preference of those living in dining dorms, I'm sure they will agree on the importance of an enjoyable dining experience. That said, I believe from the evidence gathered that those living in the dining dorms have voiced their opinion of the proposed dining plan are are not in favor of it. Their preferences should be acted upon. Anything less than that is being disingenuous.
  631. Caroline E Rubin, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:54 pm
    Cooking in communal kitchens was the cornerstone of my bonding with my fellow students, eating limited options during during limited hours in a dining hall is the antithesis of what dorm life should be. I valued MIT because it let me be independent and make the decisions that were best for me, a mandatory dining plan reeks of paternalism at best, extortion at worst.
  632. Hyeari Shin, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:55 pm
  633. Alexander R Cole, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:55 pm
  634. Janet Li, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:55 pm
  635. Brian A Remlinger, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:56 pm
    The MIT dorm system was the reason I choose MIT. The strong bonds that are created when students choose a dorm primarily on culture, not location, connivence, or cost cannot be overstated. The HDAG proposal puts the MIT dorm system at risk, and even if it is not certain to greatly harm dorm culture, the risk that it does any harm cannot be justified. Furthermore, a justification for the dining plan that has not been addressed in the above, namely that prospective students are driven away because there is no all-you-can-eat dining option, is ludicrous. Do we really want to attract those students whose choice in university came down to the dining plan? If these students choose not to attend as unique a college as MIT because of dining, I would venture that these students are not a good fit for our school and that they make the right choice going somewhere else.
  636. Mason G Glidden, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:56 pm
  637. Raven Clayborn, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:56 pm
    I think the points listed on the website sum everything up pretty nicely.
  638. Michael Walsh, other, Random (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:56 pm
    In addition to the above, the HDAG plan fails to take into account people who need to cook for themselves, because they keep kosher or halal, or have dietary restrictions (allergies, celiac disease, lactose intolerance). Cooking is also a useful life skill, and a manditory dining plan inherently discourages learning it, meaning MIT students will be less well prepared for life after MIT.
  639. Jacob T Bredthauer, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:57 pm
  640. Hazel L Briner, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:57 pm
    Part of what makes MIT unique is that the school trusts and encourages students to be independent in both academics and day to day life. An expensive mandated dining program goes directly against this and would be detrimental to MIT culture.
  641. Michelle J Wang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
    too expensive and residents can't opt out
  642. Doda Khan Badini, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  643. Di Deng, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  644. Javier E Ramos, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  645. Martha Angela Wilcox, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
    There were two factors driving me to MIT over several other schools. 1. Awesome people in a dorm where I felt like I fit in. 2. Awesome people who made food together every night in a kitchen.

    During my freshman and sophomore year, every week I made dinner (or chose to clean up) with a group of about 15 other people on my hall at East Campus. It was a great way to relax, get good nutrition, and learn valuable cooking skills. Even to this day, rather than relying on unhealthy over-processed food from food courts or even the frozen section at the grocery store, I make my own food. My best memories from college are with my friends in the dorm kitchens. We made cookies late night when we felt stressed and passed them out to whoever would eat them, we learned how to make homemade pizza rather than order out, we fixed delicious Ethiopian meals, and most importantly we gathered for our meals (the cooking part AND the eating).

    I understand the desire to have dorms at MIT that have a dining plan option. Those exist... Baker, Simmons, .... But for me, those were expensive and would have ruined an integral part of the MIT experience for me. I'd like to visit MIT's campus in the future feeling like I'm coming back home, not that I'm coming to a college campus that has been turned into Dartmouth University or something. I want to donate to the school I know and love.

    I hope you listen to the students desires. Because it's not just the students now, but also the students looking back who care about these decisions.

    Thanks, Angela Wilcox (Class 2008)
  646. Cory D Hernandez, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  647. Peter B Changala, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  648. Steven A Gomez, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 10:58 pm
  649. Chung-an M Wu, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:00 pm
  650. Sean P Karson, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:00 pm
  651. Jean C Fang, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:01 pm
    Am attempting to move out of Simmons because of this. It is absurdly expensive.
  652. Jaffar S Iqbal, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:02 pm
  653. Chen Zhao, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:03 pm
  654. Joshua F Slocum, graduate student, Off Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:03 pm
  655. James A Duyck, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:03 pm
    I pay approximately $1 for breakfast buying oatmeal, milk and fruit juice. I do not think that the dining will substantially improve my health because I do not intend to eat any hot component of breakfast as eggs make me feel ill and pancakes are unhealthy, and the fruit juice that I drink preserves the nutrients in fruit.
    From what I understand, financial aid gives me money based on expected costs, so there will be no difference between mine and a non-dining dorm residents'. Even if average cost of food is taken into account I will still have to pay half of the difference. Even if only 1/3 of the cost goes to breakfast, I am still paying about
    1/2*1/3*3000 = 500 dollars, or about 200 dollars more than I otherwise would be if now I spend about 300 dollars on breakfast during the school year. This is the lowest estimate that I can make - the highest is if half of the money goes to breakfast and I do not receive increased financial aid, in which case I pay about 1700-300 = 1400 dollars extra per year.
    This means that I will be 4200 dollars more in debt than otherwise, or would have to work an extra 2-3 hours per week if I get a UROP, which would increase my workload making it difficult for me to take a large number of classes and harming my education.
    I am not willing to leave my current residence because I feel uncomfortable with the culture in some of the non-dining residences (not that I think other people would not like them, but as a personal preference I will not live there), and the others have other problems with getting in or with socialization.
    Many of my friends are planning on leaving Next, including my roommate. I do not make friends easily and would prefer to have constant friends over a time period rather than changing friends often.
    The new dining plan will make me poor, overworked and unhappy (this is hyperbole, but it will make me unhappy).
    I urge whoever reads this to encourage the UA's proposal of optional numbers of breakfasts and dinners. I believe that the majority of students would be happiest with this option.
    I come from a middle class family. I do not need fancy dining, and by trying to compete with other schools that do have expensive dining plans, MIT is showing that it is worse because it does not care for its students.

    You could accept a payment for dining, and then do a survey to find out how many meals people would want under different pricing options, then choose a pricing option and set of allowable numbers of meals where enough funding is generated. THIS COULD BE DONE EVEN AFTER THE BIDDING PROCESS.
  656. Ronny Balboa, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:04 pm
  657. Vivian L Dien, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:04 pm
  658. Allison M Alwan, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:04 pm
    The plan costs about double the money per day (for two meals) than what I spend now on three meals. That is unbelievable.
  659. Yieu Chyan, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:05 pm
  660. Edwin M Zhang, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:06 pm
  661. Emily R Berger, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:06 pm
    This dining plan is ridiculous and unfair. I think it's wrong and it would never even affect me.
  662. Diana E LaScala-Gruenewald, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:06 pm
  663. Benjamin S Jones, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:06 pm
    Although the change will not affect me, I feel as if it is a bad enough system for me to take action. The current options to students are actually quite flexible and everyone finds a way to make it work for them, however this proposed system will force students to a plan that rarely works best for them and their families.
  664. Sanja Popovic, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:07 pm
    I used to live in a non-dining dorm (MacGregor) while it was not so popular. Now, the waitlist for it is longer than the waitlist for East Campus. People are moving in there just because they want to avoid dining. The lounges are now rooms which directly affects the culture, and I assume the similar situation is in other dorms.

    On the other side, with current dining prices, there is absolutely no way dining deals with losses. Some ILGs are capable of organizing dining for non-residents with the cost much smaller than $1000 PER TERM for THREE MEALS a day. As an off-campus student, I prepare the food for myself and I can responsibly tell that the real price of high-quality meal cannot exceed $3. Let's say it's $5 and this is a huge exaggeration because MIT dining will get much, much better price for buying groceries in bulk. Ten dollars per meal is the price students can get in a restaurant, with much better food. If the goal of MIT is to stimulate students to actually eat more regularly, they should have LOW prices to stimulate students to go to dining and it at least somewhat descent food instead of junk food. With those ridiculous prices, no one will want to use the dining. The same holds even now, except that the mandatory price is smaller. Why would anyone who doesn't like dining options have to pay for it just because they live in certain dorm? That's ridiculous especially for the horrible meals currently offered which will most likely not improve even with the new system.
  665. James A Ostrowski, graduate student, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:08 pm
  666. Katherine L Chasins, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:08 pm
  667. Bhaskar Mookerji, graduate student, Off Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:08 pm
  668. Katheryn D French, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:08 pm
  669. Cara C Brown, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:08 pm
  670. Xinzhu Wang, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:10 pm
  671. Ezequiel Schmois, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:11 pm
  672. Alexander T Papageorge, graduate student, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:12 pm
    It is ridiculous to me that MIT need institute a mandatory dining hall. MIT has traditionally followed the opinions of its students, and if they were clamoring for communal dining, that would be one thing, but when year after year the prevailing opinion is that students DO NOT want to be forced to pay for a service they will not use, the administration is showing an insulting disregard for student opinion.

    More importantly, if students REALLY wanted a dining hall, it makes sense that such a facility should be able to finance itself off of student interest. This is the business model of the so-called 'restaurant', and is successfully implemented at many college campuses nationwide. I have no doubt MIT students, who create create create, could craft such a plan.

    Finally, it seems clear that the administration is not being transparent with the motivations to introduce mandatory dining. Students at MIT cannot be treated like students at other schools. We are different, and we demand honest dialogue.
  673. Martin Martinez Rivera, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:12 pm
  674. Yihui Saw, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:12 pm
  675. Robin L Deits, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:14 pm
    Enough has been said about the general disregard for student opinion in this process. Enough has been said about the cost. I think, though, that I may have something to add about the cultural impact.

    It's wrong to say that we at East Campus are afraid of an influx of people from dining dorms simply because they do not fit into the culture we have today. Who are we to say that our current culture is superior to any other?

    And yet, this proposed plan *is* very detrimental to dorm culture. Why? Simply put, it's not that this huge financial incentive to move will damage EC culture, it's that any such incentive will damage *all* dorm communities, including East Campus. Changing the incentive structure for new and current students means that they simply cannot allow culture to be as important in their housing decision. This is bad for everyone.

    Being cheaper than another dorm is not a culture. Neither is being more expensive.

    Keep our communities alive.
  676. Sara E Drakeley, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:14 pm
  677. Neta Batscha, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:15 pm
  678. Saher Ahwal, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:16 pm
    It is really expensive for me. That will really reduce my financial aid refund or actually eliminate it.
  679. Elvine Philip B Pineda, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:16 pm
  680. Francisco V Saldana, senior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:17 pm
    Freshman participation in nightly dinners is an important culture-building and bonding experience. Don't put another dagger in the heart of our fraternity system.
  681. Ryan Ko, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:17 pm
  682. Dusan Milijancevic, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:20 pm
  683. Timothy M Galvin, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:20 pm
  684. Kristen D Watkins, senior, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:20 pm
  685. Paula M Countouris, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:20 pm
    MIT has stronger dorm culture than any other university. Mandatory dining will only break up the current social strength in our dorm system as it will force people to move off campus.

    Every person (east and west campus) I have spoken to is vehemently against the dining plan. If we are so against it, why force us into it?
  686. David L Ku, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:20 pm
  687. Gregory D Puszko, sophomore, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:21 pm
    Freshmen or other on-campus members who are on the mandatory dining plan are less inclined to forfeit a prepaid meal to attend dinner with their FSILG, which is an important bonding time for many FSILGs.
  688. Vincent H Liew, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:21 pm
    The importance of breakfast has been greatly exaggerated. Focus on the meals themselves and not the timing. It is not 'healthy' to eat croissants, bagels or pancakes no matter what time it is.
  689. Kristina L Lozoya, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:21 pm
    Though I prefer dining, I completely disagree with the lack of transparency this process has demonstrated. Undergraduates are adults who can decide for themselves what and when they should eat. I also think the idea of a hot breakfast for ten dollars a sitting is absolutely ridiculous. I spend ten dollars on cereal and milk for one whole WEEK.
  690. Jonathan Slocum, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:21 pm
    I think MIT should be run by people that actually understand the MIT animal. Let the students run it. No person in administration actually knows what every student "wants". Don't do this to MIT students, you'll seriously hurt dorm life and make kids move off campus or just not come to the school in general.
  691. Nathan P Li, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:21 pm
  692. James Noraky, sophomore, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:22 pm
  693. Reena L Joubert, sophomore, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:22 pm
    While I cannot agree with every aspect of the petition, I do support its conclusion.

    Particularly though, in the section "Negative Impact on both Dining and Non-Dining Dorms", I believe the phrasing "destroy culture" is too strong. Culture will be changed, yes. And any modification to the system that encourages students to choose their dorm more for factors like type of room, dining plan, proximity, etc. does represent a change for the worse. Inevitably these factors do affect students' choices of residence to some extent, and are even the dominating factors for some fraction of the student population, *but* much less so than at other universities (where it is the norm for most students to choose their residences almost exclusively based on these criteria). Dorm culture is much more than a cutesy little quirk that we want to preserve for fun. It is, I believe, a large part of what makes it possible for MIT to be MIT, for undergraduates.

    The culture issue is serious and so, to be taken seriously, it must be presented accurately. "Destroy dorm culture" is an exaggeration that could harm this section's apparent credibility.

    Thank you.
  694. Justin L Holmgren, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:23 pm
    I feel that it is disrespectful to students to not give students the freedom to choose their own meal plan.
  695. Lauren G McClellan, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:24 pm
  696. Siraj Z Ali, junior, Alpha Delta Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:25 pm
  697. Kyle J Hannon, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:25 pm
  698. Anders W Lee, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:25 pm
  699. Leah N Nation, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:25 pm
  700. Jenelle J Feather, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
  701. Alexandra M Jordan, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
    The MIT administration did everything in it's power to limit student feedback and push its own agenda. I do not support this dining plan. It is not right for the MIT community, and I will continue to do everything I can to get a dining plan students support.
  702. Michael I Hernandez, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
  703. Christopher J Thorsvik, sophomore, Sigma Nu (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
  704. Robert M Johnson, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
    The Independence that MIT gives us results in us getting a much broader education than we would at many other schools. Allowing us to do things, like cook and maintain a kitchen ourselves, if we so choose, results in the MIT student body getting much more than just a focused engineering education. We learn how to effectively spend our money; how to plan out groceries for the week; how to cook; how to organize, stock and, clean a kitchen; and so many other skills that, had we been forced into dining plans, we would not have developed.

    Now, I realize that some people might not be interested in learning these things, and simply want to spend their time at MIT only getting one kind of education. While it is fine to have good dining options for them, it is unfair to assume that those people are grouped by dorm, or that they want to be grouped by dorm.
  705. Nicholas W Leonard, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:26 pm
    Eating with my FSILG as a freshman was one of the integral functions that bonded me with my FSILG since living with them is not an option. I cannot support a plan that will prevent freshmen from eating with their FSILG without paying an expensive price.
  706. Daniel J Ronde, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:27 pm
  707. Julia S Titarelli, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:27 pm
    Students had too small of a say in this; I was only surveyed once for something that is going to greatly impact the rest of my time here. That is unacceptable.
  708. Rodrigo Arturo Munoz Kessler, sophomore, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:28 pm
  709. Christiana Rosales, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:28 pm
    As a member of one of the top educational institutions in the world, I find it insulting that the Institute chooses to reject the opinion of its members regarding a matter that will directly and negatively affect them. It was the Institute that handpicked its students based upon their intelligence and the Institute's belief in their ability to succeed and thrive. However, if the meal plan passes, there is a discrepancy between theory and praxis. The Institute is essentially acknowledging our abilities but blatantly choosing to ignore it.

    Acceptance is not just a one way process. After MIT chooses a student, the student must also choose MIT. Aside from excellent academics, MIT has a very unique living experience defined by the cultures and communities that make up the whole, which is made possible by the freedom originally given to students. This is a major feature that draws many potential students to accept. I know it was a deciding factor for me.

    A dorm is much more than a place to sleep, study, or eat. It is a place to grow as an individual and where better than in the place that you feel most comfortable. Students, for decades, have embraced the opportunity to decide where and with whom they want to live. Rarely has dining been a deciding factor. However, as stated in the petition, this may soon change. The direct result will be a mass rearrangements of living groups that will begin to erode the cultures that have taken so long to form.

    An indirect result will be decreased contact between members of dining and non-dining dorms. We all know that MIT is demanding, leaving precious pockets of time to relax and socialize. These pockets tend to converge around dinnertime when classes are done and our bodies need recharging before a long night of work. The fact that few of my friends are bound by a meal plan allows us to meet up and enjoy this time together. If however, some of them are forced to pay thousands of dollars for food, then they will lose a great deal of flexibility for the sake of getting their money's worth.

    On a separate note, college is a transition period where we must learn to care for ourselves. It is a time to learn, to make mistakes, and to learn from those mistakes. An academic education is important but survival comes first. Being able to feed oneself on your own is one of the more important tasks and a university should encourage its students to do so, not try to shove food down their throats.
  710. Lauren A Chai, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:29 pm
    Given all of the arguments presented against the dining plan (see the petition) and the callous way in which they have been ignored (eg. timing of release of plans to coincide with exams and holidays, resigning of UA rep from the HDAG committee.) I feel that the administrators seem to think that they have the right to tell students how and when to eat, and if this is true, where they get the right to dictate the implementation one of the most basic human needs.

    You might as well tell me when, how often and how long I should use the rest rooms, and what clothes I should wear (and how long it should take for me to put them on and what time of the day I'm permitted to do this).
  711. Emmanuel Carrodeguas, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:29 pm
  712. Luke M Mooney, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:30 pm
  713. Stephen M Chang, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:30 pm
  714. John J LaColla, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:31 pm
  715. Justin J Merritt, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:32 pm
  716. Jonathan R Chapman, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:33 pm
  717. Neil E Chao, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:33 pm
  718. Kevin E Plumer, graduate student, Phi Beta Epsilon (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:33 pm
  719. Hannah M Lawson, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:35 pm
  720. Chandler R Schlupf, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:35 pm
  721. Noel Morales, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:35 pm
  722. Sun K Kim, senior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:36 pm
  723. William F Steadman, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:36 pm
  724. Keenan A Sunderwirth, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:37 pm
    I like breakfast, and I like all you can eat. I don't like a forced number of meals per week. Can't we just keep it pay-per-meal? I know that would be WAY cheaper for almost everyone.
  725. Brayden A Ware, senior, Sigma Phi Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:37 pm
    Hi!
    I actually think that the overarching goal in the plan, to improve quality and abundance of food options by increasing student commitment, is right on the mark. A student's time is too valuable to waste leaving campus to get food or going without. (Personally, as a member of a FSILG without a substantial meal plan, I tried very hard (and failed) to move BACK to the dorms to participate in residential dining, but was told that housing was unavailable for students like me.)
    However, you missed the key meal in the MIT students day: lunch. While in an ideal world a daily schedule built around a full breakfast and smaller lunch and dinners would be the most healthy, it does not support the schedule of a MIT student- who in this case need their meals to energize them for afternoons and late nights of work, not morning work. Furthermore, cafeteria style breakfast of eggs, pancakes, and sausage is a notoriously unhealthy way to start the day. Thus, to achieve your own goal in improving quality of eating for students, a big, healthy lunch to start their work day is necessary. Fast food options such as the student center food court do not satisfy this requirement, but instead weigh students brain power (and wallets) down.
    Therefore, the only food plan that improves anything for students offers dining hall lunches in the location where students have to be during lunch time: between buildings 7 and 66 or nearby, a.k.a. a centralized all day dining hall. This could also serve professors, grad students, and the whole community, so the price can be low enough (with lowest price per meal going to largest commitment plan) to compete with and crush the fast food options. Maybe even one day a professor will consider occasionally eating lunch with some of his/her students.

    Thanks for entertaining these considerations,
    Brayden Ware.
  726. Samantha R Hartzell, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:37 pm
  727. Anisha V Deshmane, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:38 pm
  728. Carter A Chang, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:38 pm
  729. Edward A Mugica, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:39 pm
  730. Rosaline Tio, senior, Other (other)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:39 pm
  731. Dennis C Tseng, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:39 pm
  732. Larry Pang, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:40 pm
    I liked the dining plan the way it was, please don't change it as I still eat in dorms frequently.
  733. Prabhav Jain, freshman, Burton-Conner (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:41 pm
    I hope MIT takes into account dorm culture and the financial impact of this meal plan, both of which are detrimental.
  734. Anna R Christensen, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:41 pm
  735. Leif G Francel, senior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:41 pm
    The most important thing to me is the way this will influence dinner with pledges. It is essential for our pledges to attend dinner at our houses during the fall semester, so that we can get to even know who they are. Eating on a pre-paid system on campus will destroy our important dinner time at FSILGs.
  736. Bennett M Wilson, junior, Zeta Psi (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:42 pm
    It is entirely clear that a majority of students are not interested in paying extra for a dining plan that they will end up not using. The current system works perfectly well, if students are interested in a dining plan, then they move into a dorm with a dining plan. It is that simple. The amount of noise that this proposal should be indication enough.

    Thank you for your time,

    Bennett Wilson
  737. Charlotte A Clark, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:42 pm
    I also do not like the dining plan because it's all you can eat, which I would not take full advantage of because I don't eat that much everyday ever.
  738. James C Fox, sophomore, Alpha Delta Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:42 pm
  739. Adam Bockelie, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:43 pm
  740. Emily B Pittore, senior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:44 pm
  741. Ellen Y Finch, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:44 pm
  742. Kevin M Ellis, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:45 pm
  743. Rachel E Price, graduate student, WILG (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:45 pm
  744. Christopher A Kennedy, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:47 pm
    The administration has been staggeringly obstructive, unresponsive, unhelpful, and borderline hostile on every aspect of dining for the last three years, culminating in this plan. I will certainly not donate to MIT if any sort of mandatory dining plan goes into effect.
  745. Quentin Smith, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:48 pm
    As an undergrad here at MIT, the only dining facilities I ever used were those on main campus - MIT students are too busy to go back to their dorms for dinner. If you really wanted to reduce costs and improve service, pick ONE dining hall, such as Maseeh Hall, and have it be open extra-long hours! There's no need for a bunch of smaller dining halls with bad food that are rarely open.
  746. Brandon T Lew, senior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:48 pm
  747. Daniel L Eisenberg, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:48 pm
  748. James Yeung, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
    Culture is extremely important to any living group, and an extra forced expenditure should not be forced upon people who live there, because they will then have to weigh culture over cost, a decision that should not have to be made after the high tuition already incurred at a place like MIT.
  749. Victoria A Villar, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
  750. Emily L Hupf, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
  751. Morgan R Houston, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
    As a resident of a dining dorm, I can attest to the fact that this plan will have a strong negative impact on dorm culture. I love living in my dorm, but if this plan is indeed put in place next year, I will strongly consider moving to a non-dining dorm, as I know many other students will be also. It would essentially be leaving my home because the administration has made it too expensive to stay. This dining plan is at odds with the fundamental values of the MIT student culture.
  752. Iris E Sheu, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:49 pm
  753. Tatiana Berger, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:51 pm
  754. Cesar A Cuenca, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:52 pm
  755. Rishikesh R Tirumala, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:52 pm
    I'm heavily considering moving out of Simmons to avoid paying for house dining.
  756. David Sheets, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:53 pm
    The world has changed and top-down, bureaucratic, socialized solutions are on their way out. They are fundamentally less efficient than distributed systems. Higher education is being disrupted this very moment -- "college" in 2030 will bear little resemblance to college in 1990.

    The MIT administration needs to get smart and listen to the students. Add value where you can legitimately improve education and quality of life. Explore alternative options. Do not decide on the solution and then look for an implementation. Learn from the students and faculty of one of the best schools in the world instead of fighting them.

    Smart people recognize incompetence easily. If the MIT administration continues on this path, MIT will only be a ghost of its former self.
  757. Erin E Perry, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:54 pm
  758. Melissa L Kornspan, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:54 pm
  759. Marco A Farrugia, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:54 pm
    The proposed plan is too expensive and too constricting to be welcome at MIT.
  760. Garrett C Lau, sophomore, Alpha Delta Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
  761. Mary X Wang, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
    I strongly agree with this petition. I would also like to add that one of the main problems I have with the proposed dining plan is the attitude the administration seems to have toward undergraduate students.

    A mandatory dining plan suggests a desire on the part of the administration to shift to a more Ivy-esque, structured undergraduate experience, something I am fiercely against. One of the biggest factors that prompted me to choose MIT for my undergraduate experience (as opposed to attending an Ivy League university) was the unique character of the campus as a whole.

    A mandatory dining plan would radically and negatively affect the dorm culture that is such a vital part of the MIT undergraduate experience. Students would be forced to decide where to live based on dining preferences and economics, rather than where they felt most comfortable. Students would be more likely to move out of housing to FSILGs as soon as possible, further degrading the sense of community currently found on campus.

    One of the most wonderful and unique things about MIT is the freedom and flexibility of undergraduate life. A mandatory dining plan would suffocate this.

    Please do not disregard the voices of so many MIT students. We are smart and independent individuals--believe us when we assert our opinions. Believe that we want the best for ourselves and MIT and that we understand our situations fully.
  762. Kevin W White, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
  763. Chidubem L Ezeaka, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
  764. Yusung J Lim, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
  765. Harrison R Siegel, freshman, MacGregor (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:56 pm
  766. Wolfe B Styke, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:57 pm
    Paying roughly $303 for a single stir fry over the course of a semester ought to be called fraud. I can't imagine paying an extra couple thousands of dollars to live at a dorm that has dining when you don't want it in the first place.
  767. Thomas M Cervantes, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:57 pm
    Burton-Conner is a non-dining dorm and is known for having a very strong and well-defined culture. Everyone who is here wants to be here. Furthermore, residents belong to floor-specific sub-cultures. When the dining plan is launched there will be an influx of residents who choose Burton-Conner not because they strongly identify with the dorm, but because they simply want to avoid dining. This is unfair to the residents of the dorm, who have chosen the BC culture as their family for their tenure at MIT. I oppose the dining plan because it will severely disrupt the unique culture of our beloved Burton-Conner.
  768. William R Vega-Brown, senior, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:57 pm
  769. George E Blake, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:58 pm
  770. Shari M Haynes, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:58 pm
    As someone brought up earlier $600,000 isn't even that much about $150 extra per undergrad...why wasn't increasing the current amount not discussed?
  771. Mary Jue Xu, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:58 pm
    The dining plan is too expense for the number of meals it offers. If I were here at MIT for another year, I would move out of my dorm, which has mandatory dining.
  772. Amy E Riley, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:58 pm
  773. Elizabeth A Denys, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:59 pm
    I'm a senior who lives off-campus, so you'd think this wouldn't affect me. However...

    1. As a member of a sorority, I feel those on this plan also in my sorority would be paying double for many of their meals as dues include meals at the sorority house as well. "Could dues just not include meal fees?" No, because we like having our members who live in dorms have the opportunity to bond with their sisters over house meals. Members of my sorority who live in a dining hall dorm are sad that they will be wasting money on each meal they choose to eat at our house.

    2. As someone who has friends living in dining hall dorms, I have heard their complaints that it simply costs too much and that while they love the culture of their dorm, they'd rather save the money.

    3. Also, as someone who was heavily involved in student government the past two years (and now "less" involved but in a more focused way), I strongly believe that HDAG simply didn't involve those it would affect enough. I agree fully with Mike Bennie's editorial, and I'm saddened that student involvement wasn't adequate.
  774. Teasha M Feldman-Fitzthum, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 17, 2010, 11:59 pm
  775. Devorah Kengmana, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:00 am
  776. Joanne H Huang, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:00 am
  777. Jacqueline A Brew, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:00 am
  778. Marcel B Sanchez, junior, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:00 am
  779. Chelsey Healy, freshman, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:00 am
  780. Melina E Tsitsiklis, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:01 am
  781. Coyin Oh, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:03 am
  782. Juan C Ybarra, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:03 am
    I simply do not understand why the administration of this school including, the Housemasters of dining dorms, are ignoring our concerns. The response in the Tech from Dava Newman, Charles Stewart III, Suzanne Flynn, Steven R. Hall, John Essigmann in response to our protests essentially told students that they we're being unreasonable and that the MIT administration knows what's best. Even though I do not live in a dining dorm I see how relevant the repercussions of the dining plan are to all members of the MIT community. Yet the administration seems blind in this respect.
  783. Hiroyuki G Yamada, junior, Sigma Phi Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:03 am
  784. Veronica C Newlin, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:04 am
  785. Jack L Jester Weinstein, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:05 am
    The neglect of student input in this issue has been deplorable. MIT's administration purports to produce amazing scientists and engineers, yet in daily affairs treats us like children, without respect. Unacceptable.
  786. Tyler C Laprade, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:05 am
    I live in Burton Conner and will probably be moving to Alpha Delta Phi next year, so either way the cost does not affect me, but I feel that you should not institute the proposed dining plan. It doesn't solve the problem at all. Maybe get rid of McCormick dining since Baker is right across the street?
  787. Allison M Park, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:07 am
  788. Brian C Djaja, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:07 am
    The dining system will encourage freshman new members of fraternities to eat at their dining halls rather than with the brothers of their fraternity, if their fraternity offers a meal plan. This is a costly detriment to the fraternity system as a large part of brotherhood bonding is done over meals. If freshman are paying a large amount of money to dine at their residence halls, they are less likely to come over to their houses to eat with the brothers.
  789. David H Richman, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:07 am
    i actually do not feel very strongly about this issue. however, i do feel that the points mentioned above are worth consideration.
  790. Benjamin S Frank, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:09 am
    I really don't think this plan makes sense for residents of dining dorms, especially me. One part that seems especially bad is the early breakfast. I do not usually get up before 10 (and I am not the only one). This means that I would miss breakfast most days, and essentially throw away 10 dollars each day.

    Also, maybe there could be a market set up where residents of dining dorms could sell the dining plans they do not want to residents of non-dining dorms who want to buy a plan. This should make everyone happy, as long as the administration is going to push through the plan anyway.
  791. Tyler T Hamer, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:09 am
  792. Joseph A Martinez, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:10 am
  793. Yan Shen, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:11 am
  794. Derric Tay, other, Next (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:12 am
    I knew this was a problem since about 2007. Or maybe even 2003.
  795. Peter K Reinhardt, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:13 am
  796. Stuart G Bermack, senior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:15 am
    I am currently a senior and this dining plan will not affect me directly.

    However, as a freshman, I lived in a dorm with a dining hall and was required to pay the few hundred dollars a semester. This allowed me to receive 50% off anything purchased at the dining halls. At the time, this plan was ludicrous to me, I ate mostly items purchased at the grocery store, and had most of my dinners at Zeta Psi. After living in a dorm with this small mandatory fee for dining, I can't even begin to wrap my mind around the justifications for the current proposal. The mere fact that how I spend my money towards food, and how it would not be a personal choice (assuming I lived in one of these dorms) ... I take as a direct insult to me, by the institution.
  797. Ravi M Charan, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:16 am
  798. Joshua M Blum, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:17 am
  799. Cassandra T Xia, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:17 am
  800. Christopher J Varenhorst, graduate student, Off Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:18 am
    Used to live on campus.

    Adults don't need to be spoon fed. Makes you an adult quicker...Make meal plans a choice, not a requirement, don't destroy dorm/fslig/club culture.

    Why were the results of the UA's own DPC completely ignored?
  801. Teresa M Gomez, senior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:19 am
    Forget the Senior Gift; while this plan lives, I won't give.

    The dorm dining halls should be scaled back to a sustainable number, rather than pushing a plan against the collective will of the student body and our self-sufficient culture. Cooking groups among friends and within living groups is the best dining option from nearly every angle; I lived in Baker freshman year and paid twice as much for food as I do now in a cultural house, where dinners are more nutritious, varied, and social.

    Want a hand in improving student dining habits, and a chance to bring in profitable vendors? Work on available, affordable groceries in addition to more kitchens. This will improve the MIT experience, culture, and image more than a bloated meal plan.
  802. Shawn E Tsosie, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:19 am
  803. Alejandro F Arambula, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:21 am
  804. Jacob N Steinhardt, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:21 am
  805. Henry G Skupniewicz, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:23 am
    One of the things I love about MIT is the its unorthodox approach to student life, especially student dinning. In fact, I think that it is wise for the Administration to encourage students to cook for themselves more. By living in Burton-Conner and having a kitchen that I use constantly, I feel that MIT, insofar as they set up the dorm and helped me to be place here, has developed my self-reliance and abilities I will truly use in graduated life; isn't that what MIT wants to promote?
  806. Anshul Bhagi, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:23 am
  807. Dhruv R Garg, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:24 am
  808. Raphael E Moyer, graduate student, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:25 am
  809. Megan A Cox, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:26 am
    A dining plan is something I expected when I moved here but did not find. HOWEVER, this plan is extremely expensive on top of an already expensive education. I chose to live in Burton Conner for a). the dorm culture and b). the availability of a kitchen/cooking facilities so that I could minimize the cost of meals! A dining plan such as the one that has been proposed is a major inconvenience to everyone. Please make it optional or DO NOT PASS THIS DINING PLAN. I do NOT want to be forced to move out of the only place I consider "home" at MIT!!!
  810. You C Yoon, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:26 am
  811. Jeffrey W Carothers, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:26 am
  812. Leah B Brunetto, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:27 am
    In addition to all of the very valid and thoughtful comments already noted by my peers, I also want to note that the "all you care to eat" system doesn't work for everyone. While it may be cost-effective for some students (the dining plan mentions athletes in particular), I personally have a very small appetite and find that I already waste so much food at dining because they give out more than I can eat. By offering this service, it seems possible that students will get in the habit of taking more than they need and end up wasting food. By shopping/cooking independently, you can gain valuable skills in budgeting and customize for your needs. While the convenience of having a dining hall appealed to me when I moved to Simmons, this plan is just impractical- I'm definitely moving back to a non-dining dorm.
  813. Christopher R Reyes, junior, Alpha Delta Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:28 am
    I absolutely agree with the statements of this petition. In particular, I am concerned with the potential for dorms to be segregated based on economic class. I also feel that it is not the responsibility of the Institute to hold our hands and attempt to force us to "make good life choices."
  814. Lauren L Garcia-Spite, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:28 am
    i am VEHEMENTLY opposed to this plan.
  815. Sarah E Jensen, sophomore, Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:28 am
    I lived in Next House, a dining-required dorm, last year. I took advantage of the dining hall, but not nearly to the extent that I would fully utilize this new plan's additions. I would certainly not want to pay for this amount of food that I would not use next year. I like the idea of adding more options, but I feel like especially if we use the same company that is currently used in Next proceeds, it will not be worth it in any regards.
  816. Timothy K Wilczynski, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:31 am
  817. Elizabeth Salinas, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:31 am
  818. Anjaney P Kottapalli, senior, Pi Lambda Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:32 am
  819. Kelsey S Brigance, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:33 am
  820. Anne Huang, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:33 am
  821. Crystal A Noel, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:34 am
  822. Yu Cheng, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:36 am
    I feel that the new dining plan is:
    1. Unreasonably expensive - even higher than rooming costs;
    2. An unwanted obligation that should not be imposed, especially on those students who do not wish to follow the standard dining schedules or do not like the food from the dining halls, and also discourages students' choice and variation from time to time;
    3. An overwhelming deterrence that drives students away from living in their favorite dorms;
    4. Unfair for people who are assigned to a dorm not because of voluntary preference but because of lottery results;

    and the dining plan will likely:
    1. Cause imbalance on students' housing lottery preferences and therefore increase the number of students unsatisfied at the lottery results.
    2. Question the HDAG about its attitude on student opinions.
    3. Decrease the overall happiness of student life in MIT.

    I have friends who are very troubled at this issue at the moment. They feel forced that they had to give up their dorms because of future high dining cost. I assume not all resident halls are full, so if this dining plan carries, we'll soon be seeing vacancies in these dining dorms.

    A change in dining plan must consider students' lives; imposing the new dining plan will make many students unhappy, which can lead to all kinds of problems. I support this petition in advising HDAG to consider students' feelings and to cancel or revise its new dining plan.
  823. SiZhi Zhou, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:38 am
    I see two opposing objectives with the dining plan: reduce the deficit by mandatory enrollment and give students nutritious meals at flexible hours. It's next to impossible to achieve both of them at the same time without charging an higher-than-average rate, and I'm sure this is what keeps the HDAG scratching their heads. As a student, I perfectly understand that. However, I see the current approach to push forward the plan as deceitful and hypocritical. By reacting to student resistance with patronizing attitude and indifference at best, the institute is making it blatantly clear that its priority is to reduce deficit. Yet, it repeatedly claims that the dining plan is designed to facilitate the student interaction with each other in dining halls. With the current level of resistance, there is little doubt that dining plan will be successful achieving that. There needs to be an honest dialogue between HDAG and the students. The hypocracy of why dining needs to be reformed has to stop.
  824. Richard L Wood, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:41 am
  825. Thomas W Schultz, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:41 am
  826. Cesar E Echavarria, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:42 am
  827. Casandra Ceri, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:44 am
  828. Blake W Chambers, freshman, Phi Kappa Theta (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:44 am
  829. Andrew N Sang, sophomore, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:44 am
  830. Christian M Londono, freshman, New House (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:46 am
  831. Sherwin Z Wu, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:46 am
  832. Anna E Brunner, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:47 am
  833. Nischay Kumar, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:47 am
  834. Rachel V Zucker, graduate student, East Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:49 am
    I am appalled that MIT would impose $9 breakfasts and dinners on students. Many of my friends in undergrad, including myself, could never afford this extravagant food cost. MIT will drive away students from low and middle-income families, ruining MIT's unique culture and ultimately damaging its own reputation and academic competitiveness by loosing so much talent. Furthermore, it would widen the education gap in STEM, which is completely opposite to MIT's stated goals. I will not give any money to the institute if this dining plan, or anything like it, is imposed against the wishes of the student body.
  835. Michelle Z Dion, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:49 am
  836. Yoonjeong Cha, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:49 am
  837. Matthew A Monheit, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:49 am
    I will be moving into a fraternity next year so this will not affect me but it would suck for those who will be living in dorms next year. There has to be a way to do dining where it is not all-you-care-to-eat, which is an unhealthy, unnecessary way to serve meals.
  838. William A Sorensen, junior, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 am
  839. Marissa A Good, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 am
    I really have a problem with the proposed dining plan and am strongly considering moving off-campus in order to avoid the new dining plan. I think the dining plan could negatively effect the entire campus as it will cause students to select their dorm based on whether or not it has dining rather than based on the culture of the specific dorm. I honestly believe that students will have to choose to live in non-dining dorms because they will be unable to afford the dining plan and this could cause a huge shift in dorm culture. Furthermore I have a problem with mandatory breakfasts. I eat cereal for breakfast every day and it costs me less than $1 per day. On the new dining plan breakfast will cost me more than $5/day. I honestly can't afford paying that much money for breakfast. I also prefer eating healthy breakfasts, and feel that dining breakfasts will not provide me with nearly as many healthy options as I am currently providing for myself.
  840. Daniel R Grazian, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:51 am
    A couple points in the petition that particularly resonated with me:

    1. The deficit is being used to justify the expansion of an expensive program. The increase in cost is far, far greater than is necessary to cover the deficit.

    2. Grandfathering will not appease us: I find it highly unethical to condition our acceptance of the plan on not being (financially at least) affected by it ourselves. We will not allow the burden of the new plan to be passed to all future MIT students.
  841. Jefferson G Sanchez, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:52 am
  842. Adedoyin T Ogunniyi, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:52 am
    I don't wanna leave Next House (T-T)
  843. Timothy D McKinley, senior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:52 am
  844. Skye A Wanderman-Milne, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:53 am
  845. Lakshman R Sankar, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:53 am
  846. Alexander Chernyakhovsky, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:53 am
  847. Alexandra A Wright, senior, Alpha Chi Omega (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
  848. Bethany A LaPenta, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
  849. Joseph P Diaz, senior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
  850. Lin Xie, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
    MIT students are too spontaneous for this!
  851. George L Xing, freshman, Random (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
  852. Jennifer Hamon, other, Off Campus (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 am
    I am appalled by the way MIT has handled the dining issue. They should know that total disregard for the wishes of students does not encourage the warm feelings necessary for alumni to open their wallets and give generously to the Institute. The notion that profitability of one small part of MIT is more important than the numerous areas of student life affected negatively by the proposed changes makes me unlikely to offer future financial support.
  853. Matthew T Peddie, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:55 am
    Please end this silliness. Do not mandate dining for undergrads. Do not fund dining systems that hemorrhage money.
  854. Andrew M Farrell, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:56 am
    I can maintain my own homeostasis.
  855. Natalie S Dostie, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:56 am
  856. Adam D Doroski, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:57 am
  857. Alicia T Singham Goodwin, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:58 am
  858. Jacqueline N Durazo, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:58 am
    I cook for myself, that's why I was happy about the clean kitchens of McCormick. So far this semester, I have spent about $50 in dining dollars. With one month left in the first semester, I highly doubt this new fee I'd have to pay next year would be ANYWHERE near worth while for me. I simply can't afford to be charged more. For the $8 I'd spend on two breakfasts in the dining, I could get breakfast for a week! I even took cooking classes over the summer to learn to cook! I'd feel compelled to eat at the dining hall because of the fee, while in fact, I love to cook and would GREATLY prefer to do that (not only for fun, but I can cater to exactly what I want to eat, for cheaper and for better quality).
  859. Alexander P Clayton, freshman, Senior Haus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:59 am
  860. Christopher, other, Phi Kappa Theta (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:02 am
  861. Anna E Premo, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:04 am
  862. Jenny H Hu, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:04 am
    Although I feel that a comprehensive MIT mealplan is necessary, I feel that at least making this kind of plan optional for all students on campus, including those living in dining dorms, is essential. The current mealplan proposal is way too expensive for me- I am seriously considering moving out of my current dorm into FSILG or off-campus housing due to this plan. If this dining plan were made optional and the prices were made more acceptable, I would consider using the dining plan more often.
  863. Drew E Wolpert, senior, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:05 am
  864. Shataakshi Dube, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:05 am
    If this dining plan passes, I will (try to) move out of McCormick into a
    non-dining hall dorm. :/
  865. Kristopher T Swick, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:08 am
  866. Xinran Liu, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:09 am
  867. Brogan E King, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:11 am
  868. David M Lerner, sophomore, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:12 am
  869. Moyukh Chatterjee, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:12 am
  870. Kaitlyn A Bailey, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:12 am
  871. Ananth Ram, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:15 am
  872. Michelle Fung, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:17 am
    I completely agree with all of the above. The cost is ridiculous- where does all the money go, for that amount to be necessary for a 'sustainable' plan?
  873. Jordan T Moldow, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:17 am
  874. Elizabeth C George, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:17 am
    As a member of French House, a cultural house where students cooperatively cook together every day, I am concerned that these changes will affect interest in our group. The lack of regard for student opinions and approval of this final plan has made me uneasy about the future of dining at MIT...cooperative cooking is a great part of MIT culture and it would be a terrible thing to lose this option.
  875. Cory B Smith, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:18 am
  876. Oliver R Song, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:19 am
    Please spend more time and reconsider the plan.
  877. Alexis A Hakimi, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:19 am
  878. Jay Y Park, junior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:20 am
  879. Julia C Hsu, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:21 am
  880. Devin, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:21 am
  881. Nina R Sinatra, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:22 am
    This plan is very expensive -- I feel there is a more affordable option to revise dining.
  882. Leslie Meyer, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:23 am
  883. Zachary D Nelson, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:24 am
  884. Elizabeth J Toller, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:26 am
    This petition voices my opinion almost exactly. I would argue even more against the 'healthy for you' option. Because it is all you care to eat, students will naturally eat more than they should which is unhealthy. Additionally, there will be more of an incentive to eat unhealthy food- because the healthy and unhealthy food are the same price- free. Finally, mass produced food is always less healthy (and tastes worse) then food prepared on small scale, simply because of the amount of oil and salt that have to be mixed in in commercial cooking.

    Currently, I have been to dining three times- once with a pre-frosh, and two times because I needed to p-set with someone and they wanted to eat there. Otherwise, I cook entirely for myself, despite living in a dining dorm. I like my food, and it is ridiculously cheaper, and healthier. I spend around 30 dollars a week on groceries- and that includes things like laundry detergent and such, along with buying treats for game night, movie watching, etc with friends. The amount of money is really ridiculous.
  885. Olutayo A Falase, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:26 am
  886. Mary L Guan, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:26 am
  887. Aviva Rose Siegel, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:27 am
    I cannot afford to spend an extra $2000 a year on food and plan to move out of McCormick next year to avoid that, but I love McCormick and wish that I had another option besides leaving.
  888. Ashley N Perko, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:27 am
  889. Maksim Stepanenko, junior, Student House (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:27 am
  890. Krystal D Arroyo-Flores, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:28 am
  891. Sophie H Chung, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:29 am
    As a student who eats at odd hours, is selective about her diet, and mostly cooks for herself, I feel that the dining plan is terrible. Plus, I am not the only one who eats selectively. People don't need a buffet multiple times a day - even people who eat a lot, like me. There are better ways of filling the budget hole - say, getting rid of dining completely? Which is basically the opposite of this plan, which makes it both overwhelming and compulsory.
  892. Andrea Fabre, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:29 am
  893. Monica Danielle Ruiz, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:35 am
    I understand that there are problems with the current system and even now I pay $300 a semester for a dining plan that I don't use. If this dining plan does go into effect, it will be the nail in the coffin of me living in McCormick. Paying thousands of extra dollars a year is ridiculous especially when I am the one that is paying my way through MIT. The loans that are paying for my education are in my name and with that additional cost factored in, I would be cheaper by far for me to move off campus. I love McCormick but this is something I fiscally cannot deal with.


    What this dining plan threatens most is the culture of MIT dorms. Culture is and should be the reason that a student chooses their dorm...being comfortable in the place that they decide to make their home on campus is of utmost importance.
  894. Salvador Esparza, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:35 am
  895. Andrea Y Park, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:35 am
  896. Stephanie D Cooke, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:37 am
  897. Fangheng Zhou, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:38 am
  898. Li Ying Wu, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:39 am
  899. Ian M Askins, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:42 am
    Despite living in a non-dining dorm I travel nightly cross-campus to Baker to have dinner. It is quite convenient (proximity to MITWE), and scores points both on cost and taste, and even time - no I do not particularly like cooking my own meals given another option. I chose to live in EC based 99% on dorm culture (and 1% on proximity), and 0% on whether or not it had or was near a dining hall. I can only speak from experience, and not in formal statistics, but my reasoning seems to be the norm. If true that people live in dining dorms entirely due to the dorm proper and regardless of the dining aspect (and I believe it to be largely true), then requiring these students to pay for a minimum of 10 meals a week - and worse yet, not requiring other students to pay the same - is just wrong. Logically and morally.
  900. Rebecca Motola-Barnes, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:43 am
  901. Andrew T Erickson, junior, Other (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:43 am
  902. Gabriella F de Paz, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:43 am
    I don't eat breakfast. Ever. Which means I'll be spending $20 on dinner from dining every night. For that price, I could go to one of the many restaurants I've come to know and love purely because of the freedom MIT used to give us from silly things like Fascist dining plans and get a steak. Every night. Forcing us to pay for mediocre food that we don't want to eat is extremely patronizing and not at all characteristic of the quirky, free, independent MIT we all signed up for.

    Nothing about this campus is like Yale or Harvard, so why should dining be? When I visited Yale a few weeks ago, I remember suggesting to my friend that we all go get dinner at some jazzy restaurant in New Haven that had great reviews, and her and all of her friends looked at me like I was crazy. "Um... we have dining... why would we eat somewhere else?" was their bemused response. All I remember thinking was thank GOD that MIT wasn't like that. I've had such a great time getting to know all the best Boston and Cambridge cafes, bistros, sushi spots, Italian restuarants, etc., purely because the current plan in place gave me the freedom to do so.

    The idea of MIT turning into just another school that thinks its students are incapable of cooking for themselves or gallivanting off campus every so often to try a new place to eat is really disheartening. We're adults. We keep our own schedules. We eat when we're hungry, and in a shocking twist of events, we can feed ourselves. Keep dining as is or reduce the authoritarianism of the new plan. Dorm culture, schmorm culture - you pass this plan, you take away the beauty of going to school in such an eclectic and lively city.

    Besides, at the end of the day, it comes down to a simple fact: we don't want this. At all. Honestly, shouldn't that be enough?
  903. Kirby R Baylin, other, Delta Tau Delta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:44 am
  904. Anna R Radinova, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:44 am
  905. Jordan P Mizerak, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:44 am
    If you want a widespread dining plan, make it in a central cafeteria where everyone has the OPTION of enrolling or not and where everyone can hang out together. Forcing it upon certain dorms is not at all helpful.
  906. Ann M Alampi, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:45 am
  907. Drew Kurtis Dennison, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:45 am
  908. Sarah E Ritter, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:46 am
  909. Joshua Ma, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:47 am
  910. Sareena N Avadhany, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:48 am
  911. Austen W McRae, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:50 am
    Communism/socialism died out in the late 80s. Don't be dumb.
  912. Pierre-Guy F Douyon, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:52 am
  913. Arfa N Aijazi, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:53 am
  914. Camille A Wasden, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:53 am
  915. Adrian V Mullings, junior, Next (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:54 am
  916. Sonny Thai, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:56 am
  917. Elizabeth B Perley, graduate student, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:56 am
  918. Almas Abdulla, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:57 am
    As a Senator, I feel that I cannot support a plan which the residents of my dorm overwhelmingly oppose. Mandating a dining plan to residents who will rarely use it is unreasonable and unwarranted. In addition, residents feel that as the only all-female dorm, women who live here for personal reasons should not be punished by being forced to sign onto a plan they will not make use of. Choice should, by any standards, be preserved.

    Personally, I believe that this plan will not accomplish its purpose of lowering the deficit, will shift the deficit from Dining to the Office of Financial Aid, and will cause significant problems by increasing demand for non-dining dorms to levels which cannot be sustained. It is fundamentally unreasonable, since the views of the student body were obviously not taken into consideration despite opposing claims by HDAG.
  919. Andrea D Nickerson, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:58 am
  920. Pavel Panchekha, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:58 am
    Dorm culture is a central part of MIT. It makes us bend over backwards, keeps movein a hassle, and is generally a pain in the neck. And it's completely worth it, because the dorm cultures that result are so central to our university. I'm happy, nay, proud to go to a college where it actually matters what dorm you're placed in. We're not Princeton, where the goal is just to live where there are the nicest rooms. We're MIT, where the goal is to live how and with whom you would like. It seems minor when we have it. But we all sacrifice to make this happen. And our minor sacrifices every day should not be thrown away just because we're not smart enough to fix our dining system somehow else. At MIT, we should be doing things _right_. I only hope that we do.
  921. Kristin C Au, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:01 am
  922. Wei Zhao, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:02 am
    I am strongly opposing to the new dinning plan.
    I really love McCormick, but if the cost is so high that I can not afford it, I will have to leave McCormick.

    I will be sad to leave McCormick simply because I cannot afford the food. =(
    What is more, I do not like the food offered in the dinning hall.

    I would like more freedom with the choice of what I eat.
  923. Adam Mustafa, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:02 am
  924. Anuhya V Ghorakavi, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:03 am
  925. Daniel H Paik, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:03 am
  926. Keshav Puranmalka, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:03 am
  927. Margaret Mary Cunniff, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:03 am
  928. Thomas J Burrow, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:03 am
  929. Matthew R Redmond, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:04 am
  930. Jaime M Reyes, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:04 am
  931. Ka Hei Fioni Cheung, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:04 am
  932. Mark M Tobenkin, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:07 am
  933. Geoffrey G Thomas, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:07 am
    I lived in a dining hall dorm until May 2010. I liked my dining hall very much, and I thought it was important to the dorm's culture, I just thought it was woefully mismanaged in ways that ultimately were harmful for that culture. This seems to be more of the same.

    I served on DormCon for two years. I remember when we had the Blue Ribbon Dining Committee, with promises of openness and necessity and progress, and our own president couldn't report to the rest of DormCon what was going on. As DormCon Dining Chair I was completely in the dark about this and HDAG -- the most productive thing I did was work with the UA on forcing the administration to follow up on the transparency promises in Blue Ribbon, which led to the creation of the UA's Dining Proposal Committee and soon the shutdown of Blue Ribbon. Nothing seems to have happened with the UA's work. This seems to be more of the same.

    I was part of the Campaign for Students protests in 2008. We held off the worst of the changes; we didn't expect the fight for dining would be back within two years. Though most of us have graduated, we remember vividly what we fought for, and we're still here to see the new proposed dining reforms. This seems to be more of the same.

    What we need is change, not repackaging. The real loss of money is in continuing to pour funds into a battle that you lost two, five, ten years ago.
  934. Sean C Soni, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:08 am
  935. Kirrah F Jones, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:08 am
  936. Justin T Lan, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:10 am
  937. Andrew Z Sommer, sophomore, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:11 am
  938. Sajith Wickramasekara, sophomore, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:12 am
  939. Emily C Suter, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:15 am
    Burton-Conner has such a community because of the kitchens. They offer freedom and a social outlet. So many incredible memories have come from cooking experiences here. It would be a tragedy to see them go.
  940. Samantha N Powers, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:16 am
  941. Maxwell T Pruner, sophomore, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:16 am
  942. Dylan J Sherry, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:16 am
  943. Angela J Chu, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:19 am
  944. Tim Stumbaugh, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:20 am
    As a resident of a dining hall my freshman year and a current resident of an FSILG, I can confidently say that the proposed changes to dining will have an adverse effect on the ability of the FSILG system to integrate new members into the community.

    Additionally, I feel strongly that the proposed dining system will wreak havoc through the unique culture of MIT's dorms. MIT should have learned from its implementation of Freshmen on Campus that forcing people to live somewhere that they don't really belong will only serve to destroy the culture of those dorms.

    This is not a positive direction for MIT and represents a serious breach of trust. We are adults, and we should be able to make our own decisions.
  945. Taylor A Farnham, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:21 am
    Unreasonable cost without the ability to escape.
  946. KamYu Cheng, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:21 am
  947. Mary E Boyd, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:22 am
    I will have to move out of the place that I call *home* if they force this down our throats. It is just WAY too expensive. $3000 for just breakfast and dinner 5 days a week is absolutely absurd, especially considering I can eat on *a total of* $5 per day by just cooking for myself (and I do, because I prefer the food that I make to the dining food).

    Also, the quality of the food in the dining halls on campus is absolutely pathetic. None of the dining halls have *fresh* fruit and vegetables, and even if they look fresh because they have been kept in the fridge/freezer they aren't. All of the food is either way too greasy/gross or made with rotten ingredients, and no one seems to know how to add spices to make the food have any sort of flavor. I am also vegetarian and I am not satisfied with the options available to me. $300 seemed to be a small price to pay for living in such a wonderful place, but I am furious that they expect us to pay soooo much more now for even more of the same garbage.
  948. Claire F Kearns-McCoy, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:23 am
    I really like living in Baker, but will probably move out next year because I dont want to be forced to eat in the dining hall or lose $10 a meal
  949. Jasmine R Florentine, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:26 am
  950. James D Emerson, graduate student, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:27 am
  951. Kainar Kamalov, junior, Student House (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:28 am
  952. Steven D Valdez, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:28 am
  953. Kendra L Pugh, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:31 am
    If MIT does this, government grants intended for funding _education_ will get funnelled into Sodexho's pocket. I don't think dining deserves a bailout/is "Too Big To Fail"
  954. Feng Wu, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:32 am
  955. Isaac N Evans, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:33 am
  956. Jennifer N Hammond, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:35 am
  957. Elizabeth K Min, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:38 am
  958. Andy Huang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:41 am
  959. Antony J Speranza, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:43 am
  960. Conor R O'Rourke, senior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:45 am
    I know personally that many MIT students have shifted time schedules that don't match up with the "healthy" schedule of eating breakfast lunch and dinner. I wake up most days at 10 or 11 and very soon after eat lunch, then dinner at 7, then usually another sort of meal at midnight. That is the same equivalent of food, the same amount of time after I wake up in the morning, with the same spacing between meals as the supposed healthy plan, but it fits my schedule more appropriately. The proposed dining plan will not take into account the vast number of MIT students who purposely plan their schedules to have later classes and live this same schedule and require a meal later. Instead it charges them for a meal they can't possibly make unless they wake up earlier and forfeit needed hours of sleep.

    On another level, I am opposed to the idea the MIT is trying to force people into using their dining facilities. If people don't use them, they must be sub par or are not meeting the market's (student's) needs. There are a number of reasons this could be. First, the quality of food may be worse than they could make on their own. By increasing food production to accommodate the increased number of students eating at dining halls, there will almost definitely be a hit in quality of food. Bulk production of food is never as good as made to order (as most of the current system is) so students will be forced to eat lower quality food than they already don't want to eat. Another possible reason students don't want to eat at dorms enough to "sustain" them is because it costs too much. If prices were lower, maybe students would eat at dining halls more often. The price per meal of the cheapest plan would be just over $9 per meal. Purchasing food for take out from a restaurant can cost less than this, and making food for yourself would cost even less. These plans are overpriced especially for the quality of food dining halls currently provide and for meals students would not necessarily eat. Maybe a meal plan that requires 5 or so dinners a week would be more acceptable on that front. There must be many more efficiencies in the dining system if it is only economically feasible to charge that much per meal.

    Overall, I fell that this proposed system is forcing students into planning their schedules not on quality of life or activities, but by how they are going to save money just because MIT requires them to purchase meal plans. The proposed plan is against the MIT culture of independence self reliance. Even if students may be slightly better off with this plan, which I don't believe is true, they will still surely resent the fact that they are forced into something. This attitude falls in line with the mindset of the traditional MIT hacking community which exemplifies many students' attitudes. I sincerely hope that this proposal for the new dining plan at MIT does not pass because of its negative effects financially and to the MIT community as a whole.
  961. Sahar Hakim-Hashemi, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:46 am
    Because I like to cook for myself and eat my own ethnic food, I will be forced out of the dorm that is my home for many different reasons.

    This does not make much sense to me.

    With the dining plan, if I want to stay at my current dorm that I very much want to stay at, I will HAVE to FORCEFULLY pay more than I SHOULD for food that I DO NOT even want to eat.

    This is insensible to me and hundreds of other students like me.
  962. Claire S Treyz, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:48 am
  963. Hongyi Li, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:48 am
  964. Chenxia Liu, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:49 am
  965. Kendall M Capshaw, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:53 am
    I will definitely move out of this dorm and into a non-dining dorm if the plan passes. Which would be unfortunate and frustrating.
  966. Casey A McNamara, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:54 am
    It seems unlikely that HDAG can construct a plan that will please everyone. And practicality may need to take precedence over students' preferences.
    But the points outlined in this petition seem valid (though I haven't seen a convincing analysis of the *strength* of the various negative impacts explained here).
    I'm signing this petition because I believe the intensity of opposition to the proposed plan on the part of students more politically active than I am (the writers of this petition, the UA, the Tech editorial board) should be taken as a strong suggestion that the plan is less than optimal, and could do with some consideration and refinement.
    Maybe it's too late now. Maybe we have to live with it for next year. But surely there could at least be an official move to come up with a more widely acceptable plan to be implemented in the future.
  967. Wilfried D Mofor, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:57 am
  968. Katherine M Allsop, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:00 am
  969. Omari Stephens, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:02 am
    How many times do y'all have to try to slide some kind of mandatory dining plan past the student body before you actually take their opinions into account? I remember hearing rumblings about this pretty soon after I graduated, and as much as I missed MIT, I found myself thinking "man, I got out just in time."

    Do you really want to help create an environment where students count the days until they can escape the dining plan? How would that help create a positive undergrad experience?

    As a recent alum who is in a position to donate, I would strongly urge you to start actively engaging the student body for changes such as this one that will impact the undergrad experience so fundamentally. If not, I can guarantee that my money will continue to go elsewhere.
  970. Michael R Salvato, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:02 am
  971. Joseph A Daly, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:03 am
  972. Ivana Wongwajarachot, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:06 am
    I don't agree with the projected cost, particularly the breakfast cost. No one would possibly be spending that much for breakfast daily! The cost of the plan would entice students to overeat, quite opposite from MIT's plan to help lead us to healthier life styles.

    If this plan is to go ahead at all, at least make changes in response to what we want. The meal plan should offer dinner-only and breakfast+dinner plans to accommodate students' life style and life CHOICES. Perhaps the number of required meals can be lowered down to 6 meals (3-4 for dinner-only) per week, equating to roughly half a week of getting meals from the dining hall and the other half to cook own meals and explore what FSILG, Boston, and Cambridge have to offer.
  973. Elliot Avila, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:11 am
    My decision regarding my current living situation was largely influenced by financial costs. Had this dining plan been in effect, I would have completely disregarded all of the dorms that required me to pay for it.
    Luckily I fit in here at East Campus. However, it is already a haven for people that think that oppose the current dining options. Raising the prices will only make it worse.
  974. Asilata A Bapat, graduate student, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:15 am
  975. Erica L Lai, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:18 am
    I understand that the currently implemented dining plan must change, but my biggest issues with the proposed dining plan is the mandatory breakfast, the cost, and especially the definite adverse effect on dorm culture.
  976. David M Field, freshman, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:27 am
  977. Louis M Lamia, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:30 am
  978. Alexandria C Hall, junior, Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:31 am
    I used to live in a dining dorm (Next House), and though I had to pay a fee for the dining services each semester, I never used it because I had to pay even more money for the actual meals. Next year, when I return from studying abroad, I plan on moving back onto campus, and I specifically reordered my housing preferences following the publication of this plan, which obviously demonstrates one of the major flaws of this plan: it discourages students who already don't want to pay for dining even further, to the point of them not even considering living in dining dorms (whereas before I just dealt with the small increased cost of a dining dorm).
  979. Hui Xia, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:34 am
  980. Katherine A Hobbs, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:34 am
    I'm considering moving to Macgregor or another dorm without a dining hall.
  981. Rachelle A Lim, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:35 am
    Considering its huge impact of student life, the dining plan should have sought more input earlier on.
  982. Michaelann Rodriguez, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:37 am
  983. Alexander Mentzelopoulos, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:41 am
    This is an absolutely dreadful idea.
  984. Kevin Mustelier, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:43 am
    The dining plan will ruin one of the things that makes MIT such a special place - the culture and community.
  985. Romain A Teil, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:46 am
    Being treated like an adult from the start was one of the main reasons why I chose and loved MIT. Please don't stop treating the students like adults: if you start treating students like children, they can only behave as such.
  986. LuRae M Dycus, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:49 am
  987. Rachel S Luo, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:51 am
  988. Julian Shih, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:56 am
  989. Michael Y McCanna, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:02 am
    $5000 for dining is absolutely absurd. Even weeks where I spend an exorbitant $100/week on food (where I could have a *nice* cut of steak for *every* dinner) would comprise more frugal eating.

    Even though I eat approximately twice at much as the average of the people I know, I usually get away with ~$60 worth of groceries per week, and given the current budget for food (estimated from http://web.mit.edu/facts/tuition.html, which is much less than $5000), I have plenty of money *each week* to splurge on nice restaurants, since I save money on the current dining plan by cooking for myself. Compared to the proposed dining plan, the current dining plan seems cheap--which is a serious problem.
  990. Adam Davis Kraft, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:07 am
    I am financially unaffected by the dining program but I am concerned about what I perceive as an erosion of MIT culture in recent years. The circumstances surrounding Dean Simonis's firing, the treatment of Star Simpson, the legal persecution of hackers, and the proposed mandatory dining plan are but a few of the signs that the administration does not value MIT's unique culture, and is not-so-subtly undermining it.

    From a practical standpoint, the dining program sounds ill conceived: when I was an undergraduate I ate healthfully on as little as $5 per day (ask me and I'll tell you how!) $10 for a cold breakfast is unconscionable; even though I could afford this now, I think I'd forgo breakfast on principle, assuming I had a choice.

    More importantly than a few bucks saved on food, I wouldn't have met the cofounders of my startup company if we had not been able to live and hack together at East Campus. Dorms that attract people with common interests -- that is, interests beyond not getting gouged -- are as essential to the future of the Institute as world-class academic programs, so in considering the financial implications of the new dining plan, I urge the administrators to consider all of the future startup teams the plan would split up.
  991. David Roe, graduate student, Random (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:07 am
    This battle seems to be fought repeatedly. I hope that the administration continues to listen to student and alum preferences and cancel this proposed change to the dining options at MIT.
  992. Cynthia Chen, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:08 am
  993. Tamara Fleisher, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:08 am
  994. Manushaqe Muco, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:13 am
  995. Benjamin S Weissmann, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:17 am
  996. Rudy H Tanin, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:17 am
  997. Timothy R Mickel, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:22 am
  998. Edward A Flores, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:24 am
  999. Kevin Pang, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:27 am
  1000. Kirsten E Olson, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:29 am
  1001. Alina T Granville, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:30 am
    I spend almost all my time in architecture studio. I don't have time to go back to Baker to get food normally, and normally just send someone else to get me food. Since I never have time to actually go back to my dorm (even to shower) I wouldn't have time to eat the breakfast or dinner that I would be paying for. Food is already priced high enough that it would be insane to have to pay for all my meals that I'm not eating. At least currently I don't feel bad that I miss meals at dining since you only pay for a small portion of the meal in advance.
  1002. Jesus A Zuniga, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:30 am
  1003. Patrick C McDaniel, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:38 am
    What I like most about MIT is living here. Undergraduates have a great deal of freedom, and this has resulted in dozens of living groups able to meet the needs of actual MIT students. In making this decision, the administration has not only made no effort to listen, or even ask, what students wanted, and in coming to this final decision, it has shown how ignorant it is of how students live here.
  1004. Dmitry Turbiner, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:44 am
  1005. Louis P Siclait, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:49 am
  1006. Manuel Cabral, junior, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:00 am
  1007. Christopher T Su, senior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:04 am
    HDAG Members,

    Did you forget how much money you spent on food when you were a student in college?

    As someone who will not be affected by this plan (lived in a non-dining dorm for 4 years and graduating in June), I find the cost ludicrous.

    Really, how many people stand to gain something from the passage of this plan? Because I simply find the claim that this is for the benefit of the students ridiculous.

    The Administration loves to point out how talented and intelligent MIT students are - why does it treat its student body like kids when it comes to making policy decisions? Are we good for nothing else other than SAT scores and doing research?
  1008. Daniel C Sngiem, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:21 am
    Members of the MIT Community have been adding their names to this petition, even in the wee hours of the night. If I have to pay this much for dining, can you at least personally deliver it to where I happen to be at that time for breakfast (while I'm sleeping) and dinner (while I'm at practice for some student group)?

    The idea that such meals should be forced on to any capable adult is ridiculous, and is catering to minority of students who have helicopter parents. HDAG is the minority trying to force an agenda on the population that has so often said "No." Put aside the egotism, listen to the students, serve the community, don't speak for the them.
  1009. Zhi X Huang, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:30 am
  1010. HaoQi Li, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:32 am
  1011. Joshua H Alman, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:55 am
  1012. Zijie Zhou, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:01 am
  1013. Shane Healy, other, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:02 am
  1014. Theodore Blackman, other, Alpha Epsilon Pi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:03 am
    I agree with the points that were laid out in this petition. As an alumnus, I have nothing to gain or lose personally as a result of this issue, but I want the MIT administration to work with the students, rather than against them. The fact that over one thousand extraordinarily busy people have taken time away from problem sets and labs to read and sign a petition demonstrates that the administration is not giving the student body the respect it deserves.
  1015. Samuel M Thompson, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:08 am
  1016. Katarina Popovic, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:18 am
  1017. Galin K Statev, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:28 am
  1018. Robert L McIntyre, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:31 am
  1019. Beverly G Cope, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:32 am
  1020. Andrew T Nguyen, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:49 am
    This new dining plan does not "save" Institute money by the conventional definition that we know of (ie: actually reducing costs). Rather, the Institute will have prettier balance sheets solely at the expense of the STUDENTS...
  1021. Yangbo Du, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:00 am
    We will not support any plan that is imposed upon us without our full consent. The proposed dining system should at least be scaled to reflect actual demand for its services rather than affecting 1200 students regardless of their actual preferences.
  1022. Christopher W Tam, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:03 am
    Students should not be subject to a more expensive plan, as either funds will have to be diverted from financial aid, or it will appear that the Institute is trying to increase the cost of living indirectly.
  1023. Ai-Ris Yonekura Collier, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:06 am
  1024. Jacob J Cole, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:26 am
    The all you care to eat scheme both dramatically raises prices and encourages students to overeat to get their money's worth of food. Currently, one of the few aspects of MIT dining that is better than other colleges is it's à la carte option; the proposed plan would remove it.
  1025. Matthew S Barron, sophomore, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:28 am
  1026. Ruobing Lu, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:31 am
  1027. Qiaochu Yuan, junior, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:32 am
    Keone makes several good points that I have not seen adequately addressed by the institute. I am particularly disappointed by the lack of attention that has been paid to students' voices. I do not know a single current student who thinks this plan is a good idea.
  1028. Erin Kathleen Shea, graduate student, East Campus (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:39 am
    As an alum, graduate student, and GRT I am strongly opposed to the idea of mandatory dining in residence halls. As a freshman at MIT, I did not know how to cook or shop for food, nor did I think I had time as a member of a varsity sport. Cooking my own food allowed me to forge strong bonds with other students on my hall and prepare nutritious meals for myself and others, a skill that I have used in several paid positions. If I had been forced onto a dining plan, I may never have socialized outside of my sport, instead opting to run to the dining hall, eat, then tool. As a GRT, I see freshmen enter my hall not knowing how to cook but quickly learning and even joining co-op cooking groups where students cook for eachother several days each week. AS A GRT THE KITCHEN IS MY MOST USEFUL TOOL TO SOCIALIZE WITH STUDENTS. Cooking dinner or a study break for the students often draws out people who I might never otherwise see. Mandatory dining would completely remove the power of "free food".
  1029. Sebastian Velez, junior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:42 am
  1030. Elizabeth L de Regt, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:46 am
  1031. Kenneth Michael Donahue, graduate student, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:47 am
  1032. Grant A Robinson, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:06 am
    I'm hungry... for *JUSTICE.* HDAG has been considered and found lacking, like a blind watchman, or watchmaker, or watch salesman.
  1033. Sara Rose Comis, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:13 am
    This dining plan will disrupt my diet since I primarily eat organic foods and cook all of my food fresh. I also am concerned about the high sugar content in the breakfast muffins, high salt content in soups and frequently rice, as well as the high fructose corn syrup content in breads and cereals. I am concerned that if I am forced into buying into this meal plan that it will end up costing me more time than I currently invest in making my own food since I won't know what is in my food and probably get sick as a result. I only eat in my dining hall about once a month at most because the food I eat there frequently upsets my stomach. Time is more precious to me than the cost of dining plan, although I think that the currently proposed prices are too high. I think that there should be a grandfathered plan for all students currently at MIT. HDAG should NOT expect for the dining deficit or debt to instantly disappear within one year of implementing whatever plan is ultimately chosen.
    I am also concerned about being forced to move out of McCormick if the price of dining is to high. I won't feel safe in another dining hall on campus and like the all-girls environment. I don't feel comfortable in a dorm where the houseworker doesn't even make guest entering the dorm sign a log-in book.

    Overall, this new plan is NOT SUSTAINABLE (it should cost at least half the price), the food offered will force me to get sick and change my diet, I will feel extremely unsafe if forced to leave McCormick as a result, and there are no other all-girls dorms on campus.
  1034. Dustin Rabideau, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:19 am
  1035. Emilio T Jasso, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:20 am
    Instituting a dining plan will not only prevent students from living in particular dorms, but will also prevent students from attending MIT.

    Being able to cook and eat when one feels hungry is part of the experience of becoming an adult. The dining plan will take away that aspect of college, and will not allow students to act as though they were adults.

    If MIT is so upset that the students expect to be hand-fed everything, why are they trying to institute a policy that will end up hand-feeding the students food? If the 'Tvte treats us like adults, we'll act like adults. Until then, students will be devolved into just over-smart high schoolers who count the hours until lunch time.
  1036. Rob Farrell, other, Other (parent)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:23 am
  1037. Katherine J Silvestre, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:25 am
    I agree wholeheartedly with the opinions expressed in this petition. MIT dining has never been like other schools, and this half-hearted attempt to make it more like others with an AYCE meal plan destroys MIT's individuality in this aspect of college life. Students who want to live in a dorm with a dining hall should have the choice to opt out of the dining plan. I want to live in McCormick for many reasons: the female-only environment, the security, the proximity to campus, and the people who live there. Spending twice as much on dining as students living in a different dorm was not why I chose McCormick. I do not see how it is fair that any student can opt in to the plan from a non-dining dorm, but students living in a dining dorm cannot opt out.
  1038. Ainsley K. Braun, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:27 am
    Though living in Burton-Conner most of my time at MIT, I did also live in Next House my freshman year. I ate frequently at the dining room, but hours were too inconsistent to get there following rowing every evening. I don't think I ever made my $600 back from the current dining plan, which is less forceful than the proposed.
  1039. Rachel A Downing, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:28 am
  1040. Michael Borohovski, other, Zeta Beta Tau (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:32 am
    As an interviewer for the admissions office and educational counselor, one of the biggest questions I get asked is "How is the food and how is dining at MIT?" Generally, I had no problem answering, but recently I've had interviewees come up to me and actually ask me what happens if they can't afford it.

    MIT students are, by nature, flexible individuals. Structured meals aren't the way most students at MIT think, because stopping a novel piece of collaborative research to go off and eat because you _have_ to, in order to make your money back, is not the way to go about things.

    Turns out _choice_ is important. Without choice, students aren't living their own lives. Let students choose whether they want to participate in a dining plan or not.
  1041. Kweku J Adams, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:35 am
    I plan on moving out if the plan does go into effect. The meals are grossly overpriced, especially when I'm told that missed meals have already been factored in.
  1042. Dheera Venkatraman, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:41 am
    1. I am a big proponent of home-cooked food, people learning how to cook food, and having proper facilities to do this. These are basic life skills. If one cannot cook, one will have a tough time eating HEALTHY after college. If one cannot cook, their undergraduate years are a VERY GOOD TIME to learn these skills from people around them.

    2. Cooking in common kitchens is an unprecedented way to foster and build community.

    3. As a vegetarian, the campus dining programs have never provided enough variety and wholesome meals to be satisfying to want to eat every day. Note that MIT's students come from 50+ countries, have grown up on different foods, and it is IMPOSSIBLE for a dining program to serve everyone's needs satisfactorily. Cooking is a very reasonable solution to this.

    4. If kitchens are reduced as with W1, people WILL COOK IN THEIR ROOMS, VIOLATE CODE and GET SERIOUSLY INJURED. Proper and large enough common cooking facilities is a BASIC NECESSITY of any community. Dining is NOT.

    5. I am against take-out due to the high use of disposable containers. I also do not eat on any of the on-campus facilities that use disposable containers and typically cook my own lunches every day in part for this reason. Chances are MIT's dining facilities cannot allow students to bring their own containers to take-out food. The result is that a lot of unsustainable waste will be generated (don't tell me compostable is sustainable -- it's not). Cooking your own food typically means you use your own reusable containers every day.
  1043. Akimitsu G Hogge, sophomore, Theta Xi (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:44 am
  1044. Elise M McCall, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:44 am
    Though I live in a dining dorm I eat there maybe once a month. I have a kitchen and feel strongly that students in my position should not be forced into a dining plan they don't want. It definitely seems unfair to make the only all-female dorm on campus have mandatory house dining.
  1045. Anna A Kotova, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:46 am
  1046. Julia Hopkins, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:50 am
    I believe this sums it best "MIT is not like every other school. If I had wanted that, I would have gone to every other school."

    Replacing an unsustainable dining plan with a plan that fails to meet the financial needs of students and moreover makes living in particular dorms an issue of money alone is not a solution.

    We are big kids. We can take care of our own food needs.
  1047. Elizabeth R Attaway, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:50 am
  1048. Eric Nehrlich, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:51 am
    When I arrived at MIT 20 years ago, MIT treated me as a fully independent adult capable of making decisions for myself like where I wanted to live, how to make tradeoffs on how much to spend for food, and balance my choices. And I loved it. I learned so much as a result - by living at TEP, I learned to cook, do home repairs, take on leadership roles like rush chairman and house manager, and generally lived up to the trust that MIT placed in me by treating me as an adult.

    Since then, MIT has taken more and more choice away from its students, saying that they're not ready and trying to "shelter" them. Freshmen on campus, this dining plan, etc. My point is that students will live up to your image of them - if you treat them as adults, they will be. If you treat them as incompetent children, they will be. MIT is one of the greatest institutions on the planet - trust that the students going there can be great, and treat them as the adults they are.
  1049. Cai P GoGwilt, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:52 am
  1050. Elaina T Chai, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:53 am
    The proposed dining plan will force financially strapped students (there's a reason for the stereotype 'the poor college student') to choose their living group based on whether it will DOUBLE their food expenses for the year or not.

    By putting more pressure on students to choose the dorm based on that face that some will be much, much more expensive with the proposed dining plan will:

    -destroy the dorm culture, thereby destroying one of the thing that makes MIT such a unique and wonderful place

    -result in much unhappier students as they force themselves to live in dorm culture environments (or what's left of it) that they don't feel comfortable living in, making themselves and the the residents of that living group uncomfortable and very disgruntled.
  1051. Michael Rodrigo, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:53 am
  1052. Laura A Seaman, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:54 am
    My main concern is the Negative impact on both dining and non-dining dorms. First dorms at MIT are suposed to be based on culture not if you want the dining plan or not. Secondly, The people who want to move out are going to find it very hard to do so becuase so many people want to move to avoid the dining plan. Many people will be forced to stay where they are and accept the costs which is not fair and the non-dining dorms are going to get even more overcrosded then they are now because so many people dislike the dining plan.
  1053. Matthew R Overlin, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:59 am
  1054. Elizabeth A Phillips, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:01 am
  1055. Katherine Y Zhu, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:01 am
  1056. Anirudh Arun, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:02 am
    I am a member of a fraternity who also lives in a dining dorm. If this dining plan continues without attention, I will try to move out of Simmons into another dorm to avoid the cost of the meal plan, even though I am really happy with my current living situation.
  1057. Timur C Sahin, senior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:02 am
    There is no reason for those students living in dorms which have fully-equipped kitchens on every floor to subsidize the meals of those who want personal chefs.

    There is no reason ANY student who has particular dietary desires, constraints should not be free to pursue what they feel is the cheapest and healthiest course of action.

    There is no reason why any student with a moral or spiritual obligation against eating meats is forced to pay for others to do so.
  1058. Alberta Nim Ying Ngan, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:03 am
  1059. Maria A Frendberg, senior, Alpha Chi Omega (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:09 am
  1060. Nikita Consul, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:11 am
    McCormick is more than just an all-girls dorm. It has a culture that is unique because the whole dorm is all-girls. I like the culture of McCormick. MIT is known for having dorms with unique cultures. I did not feel like I fit in anywhere else. McCormick, besides Simmons, is the cleanest dorm. And I cannot live in a dorm that is not kept clean. If I had to move out of McCormick, I would choose to move to Simmons. But Simmons has dining as well, which means I have no reason to move to Simmons. As such, McCormick has become like a home for me. I shouldn't have to leave my home because I am choosing to cook my own food and be healthy instead of eating food prepared by a cafeteria. I never bought food in school all 12 years, and I shouldn't be forced to buy food now.
  1061. Keri-Lee Alyson Garel, other, Senior Haus (staff)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:11 am
  1062. Audra R Podany, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:11 am
  1063. Briana Stanley, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:13 am
    at least include varying degrees of prepaid meals - MIT is right next to Boston, i.e. amazing cuisine that many students never had tried before. It is ridiculous that a student would have to bypass a prepaid meal if he wanted to experience something new.
  1064. Jessica D Haskins, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:15 am
  1065. Houston D King, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:18 am
  1066. Alec J Poitzsch, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:19 am
  1067. Beth Baniszewski, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:27 am
  1068. Vinati Kaul, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:27 am
    I feel that one of the reasons this plan was implemented was because the answer to "Would you use a dining hall?" was "yes." The question didn't factor in the price of doing so or the fact that living in a dining dorm made this mandatory for everyone there. Students at MIT would use dining halls -- many of us do -- but making every meal mandatory undermines the culture of independence that makes MIT unique.

    The argument that after several years, students will accept this plan because it is the only option is illogical. Of course people will eat the only food available to sustain themselves at any price.

    If anything, MIT students want cheaper, non-mandatory dining staggered over various hours, not a $4k a year plan that makes no one happy.
  1069. Marcus G Lowe, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:28 am
    The costs are pretty extreme. I don't spend nearly that much and if I lived in a dining dorm I definitely would move somewhere else next year.
  1070. Lauren D Lo, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:28 am
  1071. Jillian R Reddy, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:29 am
    Paying exorbitant prices for dining hall food is ridiculous. I often spend less money on meals when I go to a restaurant and can choose from a wider variety of foods that are actually good (and good for me).
  1072. Alicia J Kaestli, junior, Alpha Chi Omega (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:30 am
  1073. Angela W Zhu, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:31 am
    It isn't fair to students who are already struggling to pay for their education here; MIT is not only cutting back on its financial aid, but also raising the price of going here. And not only with food--MIT is completely cheaping out with hiring a lot of undergraduate TAs who don't know how to teach the material very well, who don't get paid nearly as much as grad TAs or actual professors. I came here expecting a top-quality education and experience, and its very regretful that I have seen otherwise.
  1074. Stephanie T Yu, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:32 am
    This dining hall plan restricts the freedom of students of when/where they want to eat. Also, I think for dorms with kitchens, the breakfast plan is inconvenient, because most of us like to cook our own breakfast but with the dining plan we would be forced to go to the dining hall and eat, which may not be time efficient.
  1075. Sanghyuk Han, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:34 am
  1076. Svetlana M Chekmasova, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:38 am
    The current plan does not make a more efficient dining system, which we would need to end the yearly budget deficit. It only tacks on a higher price tag. Students should not bear the costs of an inefficient system. MIT should consider restructuring its dining hall system, for instance by opening one large dining hall (economies of scale?) and closing the individual dorm ones. Solve the problem in a truly sustainable manner rather than simply patching it up.

    We have many smart students at MIT - why not assign a team of students as consultants? Give them the numbers and allow them to find a solution.
  1077. Divya Srinivasan, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:41 am
    I live at McCormick because of the atmosphere and the people who are in it. The instituting of a new dining plan could kick me out of the place I call "home" at MIT. Unfortunately, because of religious and personal reasons, there are very few options that I have to choose from if I can't live in McCormick. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is in this situation, so please reconsider this plan.
  1078. Jordan E Taylor, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:41 am
  1079. Samuel L Range, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:43 am
  1080. Elizabeth W Santorella, sophomore, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:47 am
    During my freshman year, I lived in Next House. I ate dinner at pika almost every night , because I liked having a healthy and different vegan home-cooked vegan meal every night rather than choosing from Next Dining's limited range, and mostly because I loved the community.

    If I had been forced to buy a mandatory plan, I would not have had the wonderful freshman dining experience and strong support network I had.
  1081. Thomas Hu, senior, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:49 am
  1082. Phitchaya Phothilimthana, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:50 am
    New plan is too expensive. $9 for dinner is reasonable, but $9 for breakfast is ridiculous.
  1083. Qian Long, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:50 am
  1084. Katelyn M Wolfenberger, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:51 am
  1085. Elizabeth M Albany, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:56 am
  1086. Kristyn Kadala, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:57 am
    The new dining plan is far too expensive for me to afford. If it is implemented, I will be forced to switch dorms which is something I would rather not do because I like the Baker culture a lot.
    As of now, most of the people I know go to Stata or the Student Center for lunch because they do not have time to return to their dorms. In addition, most students don't have time for a full, sit-down breakfast in the morning or eat ten dollars worth of breakfast food. The current dining plan, is relatively inexpensive and is convenient for all who are on it.
    As an athlete, I am very satisfied with the proximity of Baker to the Z center, but changes in dining will force me to move to a more distant dorm.
  1087. Maksim Kolysh, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:01 am
    this will severely impair fraternities' ability to recruit freshman.
  1088. Mei Zuo, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:01 am
  1089. Ameesh K Goyal, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:01 am
  1090. Stephanie S Holden, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:05 am
  1091. Benjamin W Charrow, other, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:07 am
  1092. Jazzmyne L Washington, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:07 am
  1093. Vinayak Ranade, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:11 am
  1094. Natalia M Guerrero, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:13 am
    I'm tired of people arguing. There is a lot of opposition to change in the direction it seems to be heading and it needs to be heeded. Even though I'm a freshman, Next House has become my home over the past few months and I don't want to leave it simply because of how much I pay for dinner. As it is, I pay $300 a semester for half off my dinners. I am not ready or able to pay for a dining plan that costs about a thousand dollars more than my rent for Next. I love this school because it gives me responsibility a structured dining plan doesn't. It's easy to be absentminded at MIT, but training myself to eat regularly has greatly added to the growth of my independence as a student and adult.
  1095. Samuel C Duffley, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:14 am
    I was part of CFS. Back when we finally got a meeting with Columbo after our demonstration, we spent a lot of time explaining why we don't trust the administration. He asked us to trust him, since he was new. We said that we'd find out. Now we know for a fact and don't just suspect that the administration does not care about students wishes, regardless of how new any particular administrator may be.
  1096. Bohan Liu, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:16 am
  1097. Jie Zhao, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:17 am
    expensive, inflexible.
  1098. Lauren R Vegter, senior, Alpha Phi (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:18 am
  1099. Matthew D Sooknah, sophomore, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:20 am
  1100. Britni N Ihle, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:21 am
  1101. Kevin P Yue, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:24 am
    To Whomever it May Concern:
    I remember applying to MIT. If anything, applications my year were at least as competitive as they were every year, and quite possibly more so due to the increase in applicants. There were times when, between visits to this amazing institute and writing my application letters, I doubted that I could be admitted or even deserved to be.

    Yet when I arrived, and was being welcomed to the new class by the Admissions committee, I remember telling us that every single person in that room deserved to be there. And as I journey through this remarkable college, I have found that truth being put in front of me again and again. Everything about this place, from the development trips people take to third world countries, to classes taught by Nobel-prize candidates, makes it clear that you think we have the potential to change the world.

    So what does it say to us when you tell us that we're not capable of even deciding for ourselves where we're going to eat? What does it say when the vast majority of students oppose a plan and are ignored? That we should spend the rest of our lives quietly in our books and our research getting ignored by the people higher up the ladder with a business degree from Harvard?

    When we tell you that the new dining plan will negatively affect dorm culture, you're listening to an expert in the field. You'd be hard pressed to name anyone who knew anything at all about dorm culture aside from the students, much less anyone who knows more about it that we do.

    So please, stop treating us like we're idiots. I realize that the economy is doing poorly right now, and that the dining plan is not efficient, but if the institute really needs the money that badly, you should just come out and say it. I won't enjoy paying more, but at least it's something we could talk about. But if that's really the issue, I'd prefer you address that directly rather than trying to sell me a $40 dinner.

    And if the dining plan is really inefficient, of course, go ahead and fix it. You can and should feel the need to change anything which is costing the university too much and returning too little, but demanding more money from us isn't the same as plugging the hole. Forcing people to buy the food isn't a solution, in fact, you'll know your new dining plan is successful if you don't force us to buy the food and we still do.

    In conclusion, I wouldn't object to paying more, if the institute really needs the money that badly. I would readily discuss the need to change dorm culture if that's the issue here. And if you decide that the dining system is inefficient and must be fixed, then that is not only your prerogative, it is your responsibility. And I would happily eat at a dining hall if I feel that I am getting my money's worth.

    But what I do object to, and take offense at, is the fact that you want me to go out and change the world, and not start with one of the places that means the most to me. That you want to train me to be an expert in my field while getting used to being ignored. And that you brought me here because I'm perceptive and intelligent and hardworking and then pretending that I can't see you sweep the dirt under the rug. To be honest, it's insulting.

    Thanks for your time,
    Kevin
  1102. Susana Vasserman, freshman, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:24 am
  1103. Jessica B Barber, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:25 am
  1104. Kelley V Determan, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:34 am
  1105. Stephen L Tsai, senior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:35 am
  1106. Zachary E Kabelac, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:37 am
  1107. Benjamin T Bersanti, senior, Delta Tau Delta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:38 am
  1108. Danielle H Yuen, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:38 am
  1109. Afrah Shafquat, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:40 am
  1110. Dhaval D Adjodah, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:41 am
  1111. Tiantian Zhou, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:42 am
  1112. Lyric P Doshi, other, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:44 am
    Though no longer a resident, I have friends at the Institute. I lived in East Campus for four years and greatly appreciated that I could cook my food each day in the kitchens. The kitchen on each floor provided a major convenience, cost-savings, as well as social atmosphere both for daily interactions while preparing food and hall feed events. I also liked being able cook my own food to my own standard of taste and healthiness, again at a fairly low cost.

    While having a dining plan for those who want it would be great, I don't like the idea of being forced into one at all. Compared to other schools, I found MIT housing (both culture and freedom to choose where you live) and dining (ie you only pay if you want, no mandatory n meals a term) to be huge selling and bragging points.
  1113. Allison S Dobry, junior, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:45 am
  1114. Amy Jacobi, senior, Alpha Chi Omega (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:45 am
    Even when I lived in the dorm, I did not eat in the dining hall every day. I was capable of eating breakfast, whether it was a granola bar or cereal when I was a freshman, and continue to do so even now that I live at my sorority house.

    Perhaps it is the unappealing food that is served in the dining halls that is the problem, not the fact that dining is not mandatory. There is always a longer line at the grill and stir fry stations than there is for the main meal. My freshman dining consisted mainly of eating these grill items because I found the meal of the day in Simmons incredibly unappealing. Having come from a boarding school, I am used to dining hall food, but the meals served at MIT are just simply not what MIT students want to eat.
  1115. Piotr Fidkowski, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:49 am
  1116. Cathy Wu, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:49 am
  1117. John David Ranson, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:51 am
    The mandatory meal plan has the following issues that should be addressed:

    * It encourages social segregation by dorm. Those on the meal plan are forced to have dinner in a dining hall instead of enjoying dinner with friends who may not be on the dining plan.

    * It partially removes students on meal-plans from the recruitment pool for FSILGs and student groups by locking them out of meal-based events.

    * It's overpriced. If financial aid is going to make up the change in cost, then it's not improving MITs revenue picture.

    * It simply fails to address the needs of the students. HDAG has come up with a solution that offers mandatory rib-eye and cherry-garcia sundays to students who simply said that they like meat and they like dessert.

    John Ranson MIT SB '08
  1118. Christie S Chiu, sophomore, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:54 am
  1119. Gweniviere Kayla Capron, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:56 am
    I am saddened to see how completely MIT has ignored the undergraduate community throughout this affair. It is disheartening to realize that the personal agendas of some administrators are going to change the school for the worse. Kitchens are one of the things that makes MIT unique. We do not need to make ourselves into a copy of other universities; it is ok to be different. Cooking my own meals in a kitchen taught me independence as well as provided me with a social community. If the dining plan is not reconsidered, I will be very disappointed and my willingness to support the Institute in it's future endeavors will be greatly reduced.
  1120. Colleen T. Rock, freshman, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:58 am
  1121. Vivian A Lee, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:01 am
  1122. Alwin M. Juchheim, IV, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:01 am
  1123. Charles C Mills, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:03 am
  1124. Nicholas E Villalva, senior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:03 am
    I love being able to eat with the other members of my FSILG -- it is the one time a day that is easily set aside by all members to hang out, socialize and enjoy the benefits that drew me to my living group. Having to have a pre-paid plan on campus would take a lot of that away from me. I know I'm a senior and will not be affected by this, but having enjoyed 3 years of dinner with my friends on a regular basis was one of the best things about MIT and I hope you don't take that away from the underclassmen in my fraternity.
  1125. Wendy Cheng, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:06 am
  1126. Travis J Hance, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:08 am
  1127. Max H Dunitz, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:09 am
  1128. Mark Christopher Molaro, graduate student, Off Campus (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:12 am
  1129. Stephanie L Fung, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:13 am
  1130. Andrew Sudbury, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:14 am
  1131. Alex Speltz, junior, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:19 am
  1132. Emily F Pitts, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:21 am
  1133. Shen Huang, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:22 am
    I enjoyed my time having a choice cooking in the kitchens of East Campus for two years while lived there. I ate healthily and happily. I have visited McCormick several times to spend time with my friends, and the food has not been to my taste or nutrition expectations, because of cultural differences in food. It is unreasonable to expect that people will always eat 3 meals a day at the dining halls and also unreasonable that food will not be wasted.
  1134. Natthida Wiwatwicha, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:23 am
    MIT should be looking for other solutions to make up its deficits. The required dining plan will not solve that problem.
    And I thought we were proud of the fact that nothing at MIT is required except for the swim test?
    MIT locates in a place with diverse food opportunity. Students are reluctant to be committed to one food source.
    I like the idea of the new dining plan as far as trying to feed everyone is concerned. Personally this plan would not even affect me much because I receive full financial aid- a lot of students are like that. So MIT is paying for its own plan as well. But I do see the fact that the food quality will go down, and forces students to live in dorms based on their dining decisions, and that affects everyone. Those things have higher priority than money, to keep MIT an amazing place. Perhaps make it optional, for dining dorm residents and non-dining dorm residents? But I believe that either way it is not going to help the reduce the deficit.
  1135. Giulia M Dula, senior, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:25 am
  1136. Rachel E Batzer, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:27 am
    Simmons night cafe is extremely popular and could probably support its self without a dinning plan. Perhaps Simmons should only have an expanded night cafe and no MIT sponsored dinning.
  1137. Thomas J Moriarty, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:33 am
  1138. Kaleb Ayalew, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:34 am
    About breakfast: College is a place where we can mature in a contained environment. If we're forced to eat breakfast (and pay for it), we won't be learning so much as be parented all over again. We would be having breakfast only because we were forced to, not because we learned that it was best for us. Even if we don't learn that we should have breakfast now, we're going to have to learn it eventually for it to transfer over to the real world. We need to learn to manage our time ourselves, since forcing us into a schedule doesn't really teach.

    Also, cereal (for example) is cheaper, and more adaptable to our schedule. We have each made our own arrangements, which are not necessarily healthy, but which we adapt based on need. We're learning slowly, but it may be the only way to.

    summary: (parenting us into something we don't want won't last)

    About Halal/vegan choices...etc.: If students with such dietary preferences prefer that part of the dining plan, then their voices should be heard [but even that doesn't mean that prefer the entirety of the dining plan]. That being said, some students wanting halal/vegan food, doesn't mean that those same students want to pay extra for those same services. After all, they likely have their own accommodations as of now, and dining with more options and associated costs may not necessarily be better in their opinion.
  1139. Sean, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:35 am
  1140. Shelley E Ackerman, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:40 am
    I would not like to end up with no dining, and am happy with the way things are now. Bon Appetit has worked hard in some of the dorms to better satisfy the students. The option of getting dinner gives me a good balance of making my breakfast and lunch (going to Trader Joes for groceries) and then getting dinner at dining when I don't have time to make it.
    However, the new dining plan is too expensive, and while they are trying to tell us we will be given high quality food, I highly doubt it. Also, I keep hearing the argument that financial aid will cover it. If we are in a deficit, how is financial aid's large increase in grants going to affect that and do they even have the money to support it?
    They say that this will help attract new students, but if those new students aren't able to get the money they need to come here because financial aid can't help everyone as a result of the dining plan, the students still won't be able to come to MIT.
  1141. Jie-Yoon Yang, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:42 am
  1142. Kristen D Wilhite, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:44 am
  1143. Tea Dorminy, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:45 am
    I came to MIT because MIT lets me fall down and find my own way up. I approve of freshmen being integrated into all the dorms, not being deemed immature and in need of being forced to have mostly friends from their own class year. I approve of GIRs instead of freshmen classes, because I can take classes in any order I want, making my own mistakes and finding my way through them. Maturity is built by making mistakes.

    I also object to the lack of individual choice in what to eat on another level: by forcing dining dorm residents to eat in the dining halls or pay double for food, it makes it financially inviable to eat organic, or to eat 'ethical' meat only, or abide by any other diet not easily fulfilled by one of the approved diets: generic, kosher, halal, vegetarian. I eat only organic food. I would not be able to eat organic food only if I were on a meal plan: my food budget isn't that large.

    I believe this dining plan prevents food mistakes and better food choices together, and I believe this is a bad thing. Yes, MIT may lose some money -- this isn't the answer to that. Yes, MIT may have some cases of scurvy --- but the answer to that is not to force people to eat a mid-quality food diet. Don't force us all to mediocrity, take away our choice, and slow our maturity when it comes to food. Let everyone do as they please, and give up this dining plan.
  1144. Lucas W Goodman, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:45 am
  1145. Marketa Foley, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:47 am
    Over the last decade, MIT has done its best to destroy the FSILG community, and this proposed dining plan is yet another example of this. I spent my four undergraduate years at MIT living at pika, and it has been the most important aspect of my MIT experience, both academically and personally. It provided me with a new family far away from my home, and the nightly "family dinners" were a big part of that. Please do not take this opportunity away from other students.
  1146. Rachel M Ellison, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:47 am
  1147. Katherine J Fang, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:53 am
  1148. Gloria Hyun, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:54 am
  1149. Elizabeth Bailey, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:56 am
  1150. Zachary B Wener-Fligner, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:02 pm
  1151. Ana M Lyons, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:07 pm
  1152. Ben Su, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:09 pm
  1153. Ian P Martin, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:09 pm
    The one thing that bothers me the most here is the idea that MIT students are incapable of feeding themselves. Even more disturbing to me is that the plan addresses this "concern" by with the idea that if you place a meal in front of someone and charge a high enough price, they simply have to eat because it makes good financial sense. Personally, I eat three meals a day, every day, and I haven't eaten in a dining hall in probably over a month. I buy my breakfast food at the grocery store and prepare it myself, I usually find lunch on campus, and dinner is usually at a club or my fraternity, Theta Xi. If I lived in a dining dorm, not only would I be paying orders of magnitude more for breakfast over the course of the year, I would also be unable to sustain having dinner at club events and at Theta Xi.
    MIT students have generally enjoyed a relatively trusting administration. With that in mind, why is it that the administration suddenly can't trust us to feed ourselves?
  1154. Elizabeth Murnane, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:10 pm
  1155. Peter P Tieu, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:18 pm
    The existence of such expensive mandatory dining in general forces students into a meal design, preventing the promotion of independent choice. This also prevents students from practicing budget balancing and restricts their ability to cook for themselves, a skill that will be in much use upon leaving MIT.

    I've had to be a part of mandatory dining at Harvard during their summer school. While the availability of the dining location was useful for quick meals, after about a month, I was sick and tired of the same repetitive food served again and again.
  1156. Charles J Franklin, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:19 pm
    I really don't understand why this problem has lasted this long. We don't pay ridiculous amounts of money to be told when and where to eat. The school is supposed to serve our needs. It's clear that we, the student body, don't want this dining plan. Why is it even still a consideration?
  1157. Sydney B Beasley, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:20 pm
  1158. Anthony J Valderrama, senior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:30 pm
    As a resident of Simmons Hall for two years, I have experienced the failure of dining first hand. I was able to dismiss the $600/year dining fee as a slight bump to my cost-of-living while mostly ignoring the dining hall. That would not be possible with the new plan, and so I would have moved elsewhere.

    As the president or former president of an ILG and of several student groups, I am terrified of the implications of this new dining plan. It will wreak havoc in established communities in order to support this ill-devised plan.
  1159. Andrew N Sutherland, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:32 pm
  1160. Marco Pedroso, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:32 pm
  1161. Ryan Rifkin, other, Random (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:34 pm
  1162. Arjun Mendiratta, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:34 pm
  1163. Deena Wang, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:34 pm
  1164. Lisa L. Weiss, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:35 pm
    Freedom of choice even in the small things is very important. We have less and less of it in our world today. I'm disappointed that MIT is following the national trend.
  1165. Mariela Perignon, other, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:35 pm
    While I lived in Simmons, I was forced to participate in the dining plan. The food was terrible. It also did not build community, since everyone hid in their rooms to eat their dinner. My experience at MIT changed when I moved to pika, which had its own meal system that included the residents and also student that lived in dorms, through the pika meal plan. If this plan goes forward, it will destroy the flexibility that students have to find their own spot at the university, since they will be forced into an option they might not want. It will also negatively affect people in sports - the dining room was never open late enough for me to get dinner after crew, ever. This meant I was left paying for a service I couldn't use.
  1166. Jason S Lee, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:36 pm
  1167. Feng Wang, other, Other (parent)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:40 pm
    Freedom of eating is more fundamental than freedom of speech
  1168. Heidi Burgiel, other, Pika (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:40 pm
  1169. Shirley Tsang, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:42 pm
  1170. Artur Dmowski, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:42 pm
  1171. David A. Maltz, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:44 pm
    MIT students need and deserve the flexibilty to choose where and when to eat meals. Why are students (present and future) being collectively taxed to support a dining system that is clearly failing? This is an issue for the executive management of the dining services and the contractees to deal with, without resorting to excise on the larger student population. If they can't solve it, their contracts should be terminated, including the employment of the MIT administrators responsible. Let's have some real accountability.

    David A. Maltz, SB '93, SM '94
  1172. Arthur J Petron, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:45 pm
    I was previously an undergrad living in Burton Conner. This decision by MIT to completely disregard student culture for petty financial and paternal reasoning is completely unjust. I liken it to the Scott Krueger ruling, which completely reorganized dorm and fraternity culture for the worst based on the actions of MIT and a single late student's parents. Rush used to be much more sane, longer, and helpful in providing the residence of most satisfaction for students. This dining issue is simply making that decision harder to make because the choice students are forced to make becomes one of least bad instead of one of most good.

    MIT is not a typical institute. We do things differently for a reason. We are different. We're more responsible, smarter, and require more freedoms than most college students in order to excel. Do not take this away from us.
  1173. Holly Allen, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:45 pm
    The communal cooking and dining at Pika were incredibly important to me as an undergraduate at MIT. Please don't force students to pay for food on campus that they don't want.
  1174. Suniti Sundaram, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 pm
  1175. Amelia M Arbisser, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 pm
  1176. Luke Phelan, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 pm
    Free quarks!
  1177. Corrina Chase, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:50 pm
    Forcing participation in an oncampus meal plan is never appropriate.
  1178. Alejandro J Ruiz, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:52 pm
    I don't see how anyone thinks this plan is even mildly reasonable. For the amount people are expected to pay, they can go into Boston and have some very nice meals for every meal of the day.
  1179. Nikole P Castle, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 pm
  1180. Nolan L Eastin, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 pm
  1181. John R DiMino, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:54 pm
  1182. Evan T Murray, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 12:59 pm
  1183. Sanjay Vakil, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:05 pm
    Meals with my cohorts at pika was one of the highpoints of my time at MIT. Cooking, eating and cleaning together make people family.
  1184. Roxana Safipour, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:05 pm
    Students should have the freedom to cook their own food and feed themselves. I often cooked my own food even in freshman year. This allowed me to eat the food I actually wanted. The food in the dining halls was always unhealthy, expensive, and there were few vegan options. It isn't fair to force students to pay for food that they are not going to eat, and many students oppose this mandatory dining plan. MIT should listen to student concerns.
  1185. Joseph M Laurendi, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:07 pm
  1186. Linda M Zayas-Palmer, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:07 pm
  1187. Cheetiri S Smith, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:07 pm
  1188. Daniel Walter Rowlands, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:08 pm
    First of all, while I am a graduate student, this issue still affects me because I am active in--and, in fact, an officer of--a student group that has weekly meetings-followed-by-dinner. Requiring that the freshmen in certain dorms eat seven dinners a week in their dining halls essentially means that freshmen from those dorms won't have nearly as much opportunity to become involved in our group even if they would otherwise be interested.

    Furthermore, I am concerned because many of the arguments that have been advanced in support of the new plan, and of refusing to consider changing it, strike me as both ill-considered and paternalistic-bordering-on-authoritarian.

    While it is obviously good for everyone to eat healthier meals and to eat breakfast every day, the new dining plan is not necessary for this. After all, grad students, who are often just as busy or busier than undergrads, manage quite well cooking for themselves (fortunately, our dorms all have kitchens). And when there isn't time to cook, there are a number of restaurants in the student center, along Mass Ave, and in Kendall Square, where one can buy breakfast rather cheaper than the estimated ~$9/meal of the proposed dining plan. Besides, in my experience both as an undergrad and as a grad student, when someone decides to skip breakfast for a little more sleep or a little more time to finish their homework, trying to force their hand with money isn't going to make much of a difference. When you're tired enough that sleep seems more important than eating, or when you're worried about a problem set that it seems more important than eating, that's what you're going to do. And, if anything, forcing you to pay for a meal that you don't feel you have time to eat just makes you less willing or able to afford to spend money on a meal later when you do have time.

    Furthermore, the argument that "Now that the plan is public and there is student unrest, we can't consider changing anything because we've already sent out a Request for Proposals." sounds to me like either a case of very bad planning (if the question of "What if the students mostly disapprove?" never came up) or an attempt to avoid listening to student opinions (if the schedule was intended to make sure that changes would be impossible). Either way, this is hardly a good way to make decisions this important, at least if one sees students as part of the MIT community and not simply as children to be dictated to.
  1189. Victor A Morales, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:08 pm
    Moving out of Simmons
  1190. Jacqueline C Felton, junior, Senior Haus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:09 pm
    This is a terribly stupid idea. As somebody who never got enough financial aid *anyway* I found it much less expensive to cook my own meals than to be forced to owe yet another 5 grand a year I couldn't afford to pay.
  1191. Monica I Pate, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:09 pm
  1192. Danielle C Smith, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:13 pm
  1193. Gretchen Keppel Aleks, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:14 pm
  1194. Laura Han, other, Baker (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:14 pm
    Dining has always been overpriced for the amount we are made to pay each semester. This just seems silly and ridiculous. The number of meals I didn't eat at dining were too numerous, and I thought the pro to MIT's dining was the flexibility to eat there when I wanted to. Such a staggering price increase practically forces students to eat there. As a former MIT tour guide as well, having a lower cost/flexible dining plan was always something that impressed potential students and parent. With the new pricing, dining no longer becomes something to differentiate MIT from the other universities that also force its students into dining plans.
  1195. Brett S Lazarus, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:15 pm
  1196. Dora Y Gao, senior, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:16 pm
    Cooking and eating dinner together six times a week is one of the biggest aspects of French House that allows us to bond and that we take pride in. The dining plan will seriously hinder the number of freshmen who may choose to partake in cooking for themselves and their friends over prepaid meals that have already been prepared for them.
  1197. Naomi L Lynch, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:17 pm
    This dining plan is a terrible idea. It's great that they are providing more options for students and being a vegetarian, I appreciate that the dining committee is finally recognizing that there are not enough vegetarian options but it's ridiculous to have to hike up the cost of dining. I personally do not utilize Simmons dining much and I feel that it is unfair to be forced to pay more if I know I am not going to use the plan to its full potential. Lastly, I don't think many people have extra money to just pay MIT during these hard times.
  1198. Hongkai Zhang, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:18 pm
    Dorm dinings are not delicious at all.
  1199. John G Mikhael, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:18 pm
  1200. Sean Patrick Robinson, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:19 pm
  1201. Jeremy J Kuempel, senior, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:22 pm
  1202. Gregory G Vargas, graduate student, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:22 pm
  1203. Zhen Elizabeth Fong, other, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:23 pm
  1204. Chyleigh J Harmon, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:24 pm
  1205. Marty S Goldsmith Sweeney, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:25 pm
  1206. Justin Wu Lee, graduate student, Next (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:25 pm
  1207. Jessica R Perez, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:26 pm
  1208. Kaia Dekker, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:26 pm
    I believe the current HDAG plan is poorly thought out, and would have detrimental consequences on student life. I also feel strongly that if the current house dining system is unprofitable, the institute should either accept the cost as a subsidy, or shut down the program -- obtaining greater financial sustainability through forcing even more students to pay for an evidently undesired service goes against good economic sense and is bad polity.
  1209. Angelica M Cardona, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:29 pm
  1210. Jennifer Jang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:29 pm
  1211. Claudio V Di Leo, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:30 pm
  1212. Jacqueline Rogoff, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:30 pm
  1213. Olivia Bishop, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:34 pm
  1214. David E Williams, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:37 pm
  1215. Anthony J Morelli, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:37 pm
    I think the most pressing issues are those of financial segregation and, additionally, whether financial aid would increase to reflect the new dining policy. As proposed, this would encourage those for whom an additional few thousand dollars a semester is quite a burden to move off campus and avoid the dining plan.
  1216. Mimi Xie, graduate student, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:37 pm
  1217. Mario Attilio Bollini, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:38 pm
  1218. Benjamin Ehrlich Mandler, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:38 pm
  1219. Martin Skelton, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:39 pm
    This is a slippery slope, and I fear that if some of the dorms are forced into a dining plan, it won't be long before they all are in one way or another. There are important lessons learned outside the classroom as a college student, including budgeting for expenses like groceries and learning how to cook simple meals while maintaining a varied diet. In addition, the kitchen was one major center of community in my four years at MIT, and replacing the experience of cooking alongside your friends with hurrying through a cafeteria line would be a real shame. Most importantly, the people MIT's administration should be answering to first and foremost are their customers, the students. The way that student suggestions and complaints in this entire ordeal have fallen on deaf ears is alarming and short-sighted, in my opinion.
  1220. Shirley M Galbiati, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:39 pm
  1221. Megan E Bowman, junior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:40 pm
  1222. Daniel S Dorsch, junior, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:42 pm
    While the dining plan does not directly affect me, there are several fundamental flaws which make it an issue, though the administration seems to want to overlook them.
  1223. Yu L Huang, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:43 pm
  1224. Michelle Chiu, other, Alpha Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:44 pm
  1225. Grace M Prazniak, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:46 pm
    I don't like the dining plan in general, but my largest concern is dorm culture. Especially with the new residence hall opening, and offering a lunch option, students who do like the dining plan will be drawn away from their current dorms in large numbers. Offering the lunch option to all dorms would stop people who like the dining plan from leaving their halls just to get lunch, even if that means a little overcrowding for lunch in the new dining all. Making the dining plan optional would be even better, although I feel like that is less likely to happen.
  1226. Paige E Finkelstein, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:47 pm
  1227. Russell Kooistra, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 1:53 pm
  1228. Elizabeth Maroon, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:04 pm
    After moving cross-country and comparing my college experiences with those around me, I have found that MIT really does treat its students as adults in both the academic sphere and everyday life. My introductory classes all contained material that students at other schools didn't see until their upper-level classes. Of my new friends, I am the only one who didn't move way off-campus because I loved my dorm (which is apparently an unheard of statement elsewhere) and I could cook for myself. Forcing students into one expensive dining plan (when it is clear that it is not wanted by students living in *all* parts of campus -- West, East, FSILG) coddles students and changes dorm culture for the worse. By ignoring student opinion with this new dining plan, it is clear that MIT no longer views its students as independent adults, but as children who must be taken care of. Dining needs to be reformed somehow, but I cannot support the changes that *this* new dining plan will bring -- and these changes will directly affect whether I choose to donate to the Institute in the future.
  1229. Arathi Ramachandran, junior, Pika (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:06 pm
    This is really awful. I am currently doing the CME exchange and one of the things I miss about MIT is the pika tradition of cooking and having guests over. The pika community would not be as vibrant as it is without the freshmen who contribute by joining meal plan. Additionally, I feel that the costs proposed are exorbitant.
  1230. Benjamin A Sena, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:07 pm
  1231. Jennifer B Fasman, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:07 pm
    While I do not agree with most of this petition, I still have issues with the dining plan. The current plan emphasizes breakfast over lunch. The cost is comparable to dining plans at other schools, such as Tufts. However, the cost of the Tufts dining plan is weighted towards dinner, while this plan is weighted towards breakfast, a meal that can still be eaten in a healthy fashion at significantly lower cost.
  1232. Yin F Chen, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:15 pm
  1233. Cody Zoschak, sophomore, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:16 pm
  1234. Greg Perkins, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:16 pm
  1235. Marie Hu, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:17 pm
    While I understand a need for a revision in the current MIT dining plan, I feel that this is not the best option. At least give current juniors (and maybe sophomores) the option to opt out of it, because we didn't know about this new revised dining plan when we originally chose what dorms to move into before we got to MIT. It is unfair to ask us now to leave the places we've lived for 3 years because we can't afford to pay an extra $2000/semester.
  1236. Xuan Yang, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:21 pm
  1237. Sean T Tang, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:21 pm
  1238. Colleen M Meehl, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:27 pm
  1239. Patrick J Vatterott, sophomore, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:31 pm
  1240. Alex C Wang, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:33 pm
    This dining plan will completely destroy MIT's unique culture. MIT is like no where else in the world. It is a place of immense DIVERSITY and a place that allows everyone to find their own unique niche. This dining plan is forcing so many students to move out of the dorm in which they fit the best. DO NOT PASS THIS DINING PLAN. MIT has a reputation to uphold, and this will be nothing but a detriment to MIT.
  1241. Sean E Burke, sophomore, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:34 pm
  1242. Amittai E Axelrod, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:36 pm
  1243. Jesika Haria, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:38 pm
  1244. Neena S Parikh, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:38 pm
  1245. William A Gaviria, sophomore, Theta Chi (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:38 pm
    Although I do not live on Campus, I strongly do not support this new dining plan, and above all, how it has been carried out so far. The HDAG has simply ignored us and carried on with their agenda.

    WE DO NOT WANT THIS PLAN. WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT
    If you want our approval, REVISE IT, and for once actually listen to what students want
  1246. Cecily C Koppuzha, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:39 pm
  1247. Will Macfarlane, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:39 pm
    There are a lot of great engineering schools in the country, but there aren't any schools that I would have rather spent my undergrad years. When I became an MIT student I was moved, inspired, and ultimately transformed by the many ways in which the Institute crafted policies and social structures to encourage and respect the many different cultures and subcultures of the community.

    The relationship between food and community is obvious enough that I don't need to reiterate it here. As an MIT student I learned to take integrals and solve physics problems and program computers. As a Pikan I learned to cook, clean, fix toilets, build porches, organize large-scale projects and collaborate with people, whether I liked them or not. In my day-to-day life I do all of these things, and I'd be hard pressed to decide that any one of them is more useful than another.

    By expanding mandatory dining policies, encouraging undergrads to have other people cook for them rather than doing it for themselves and each other, MIT is simultaneously participating in the infantilization of its students and sabotaging their ability to create their own personally meaningful social structures and community rituals. In sort, sabotaging their ability to engage in deeply personal ways with their learning community.
  1248. Elaina K Present, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:40 pm
  1249. Rena Kuai, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:40 pm
  1250. Johanna S Shin, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:40 pm
  1251. Nora A Darago, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:44 pm
  1252. Kristin L Berry, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:44 pm
  1253. Sabeel S Hakim, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:50 pm
  1254. Olivia Mello, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:52 pm
    This dining plan is completely unfeasible economically for many students and it will destroy the dorm culture that MIT is renowned for.
  1255. David Miranda-Nieves, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:53 pm
  1256. Valerie J Chia, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:53 pm
    I firmly agree that this new dining plan is far too expensive for students, even with the option of opting out for upperclassmen. As a sophomore, I would very much like to continue living in Baker next year because I support its culture and I enjoy its location and other amenities, but if this dining plan is put into place, I will most definitely be moving into my sorority. Dining is a deciding factor and my dislike of the proposed plan is enough to drive me out of Baker, despite being very involved with the dorm itself by serving as an officer on the executive council for the last two years.
  1257. Theodore Tzanetos, freshman, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:54 pm
  1258. Yi Wu, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:55 pm
  1259. Veronica L Barrera, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:55 pm
    I have already spoken with the UA about my issues with the new dining plan, but basically here are my thoughts:
    1. Last year, I added up all of my food expenses (including the $600 that is charged for living in a dining hall dorm) and it all amounted to approximately $1300. This amount is $1600 less than what I would be forced to pay if I remained in Simmons, not including lunch.
    2. The statistics above show that I would not eat my money's worth in food, and I find it completely unfair that I should be forced to move out of Simmons (my home within which I am very involved) just because I cannot and will not pay the exorbitantly high prices.
    3. If I cannot get a spot in one of the non-dining dorms, I will be unable to pay for the price of the new dining plan, and thus will have to consider moving out to an apartment in Cambridge or Boston since I might not have guaranteed housing at my sorority house. This is ridiculous, since it would completely screw up my MIT experience for which I am currently paying a lot of money for.
    4. If this dining plan goes through, I guarantee that there will be major chaos and a revolt that would interfere with my schoolwork since I would want to get involved and not let HDAG and the Administration get away with it.
    Thanks,
    Veronica Barrera
  1260. Elizabeth M George, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:57 pm
    Mandatory meal plans are the single worst thing that I hear undergrads complain about at my graduate university (UC Berkeley). While having the option of going to a dining hall is nice, most students would rather choose for themselves when and where they eat. Because students spend so much on the mandatory meal plan, if they get home late from an athletic event, for example, and the dining hall is closed, they often skip dinner because they don't have extra money to spend on food elsewhere.

    While I was an undergrad at MIT, I enjoyed cooking for myself every day. My food cost was less than $200 a month. Given my income for the year (usually ~$3500), and the fact that my parents didn't give me money for food, I would not have been able to afford to eat without taking out more student loans under the mandatory meal plan proposed.

    Mandatory meal plans are a bad idea, and I do not support the proposed plan.
  1261. Celine D Yang, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:57 pm
  1262. Judy Hsiang, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 2:58 pm
  1263. Joann Lin, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:06 pm
  1264. Claire M DeRosa, senior, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:06 pm
  1265. Daniela M Yuschenkoff, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:12 pm
  1266. Carolina N Kaelin, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:12 pm
  1267. Pritee S Tembhekar, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:16 pm
    I might move out of Baker because of the added cost. :(
  1268. Casey E Landry, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:16 pm
  1269. William A Dominas, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:17 pm
  1270. Matthew D Falk, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:19 pm
    As an athlete, there are days that I do not get home from practice (with showering, going to therapy, meeting with coaches/teammates, etc.) until after 8:30 PM. A lot of the time I will not eat dinner until 2 or 3 in the morning. Being forced to have already paid for a meal that I will probably not make is ridiculous. Furthermore, I have large amounts of grocery store products stocked up in my room, which means I don't buy breakfast, lunch or dinner, on a typical day. This is a huge cost saver and is much more convenient because the food is more readily accessible that any dining plan could ever propose.
  1271. Kevin K Li, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:20 pm
    Food should not be this expensive
  1272. Kristine A Bunker, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:21 pm
  1273. Shuonan Dong, graduate student, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:22 pm
    Students should choose residences based on a dorm's culture, not on whether they can afford a dining plan or not. A much better idea would separate living spaces from dining spaces. For example, one can imagine a large dining hall in a neutral location like the Student Center, which allows any students, regardless of living situation, to participate in a flexible, multi-optional dining plan. This can consolidate the food services work force to one or few locations, thereby reducing costs, and create a central, cross-dormitory, and flexible dining environment for the whole community.
  1274. Temuge Enkhbaatar, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:23 pm
    I don't eat dinner 5 days a week. And I usually eat dinner Outside of campus in a weekend. I really like cook, I prefer to eat my own food in the morning. Therefore I spend less than 10$ per day. So new dining plan is really not for me. But, I don't want to move from Next house. Next house is the only house I like its culture.
  1275. Natanya R Kerper, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:23 pm
  1276. Jeremy Sharpe, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:25 pm
  1277. David C Christoff, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:27 pm
  1278. Catherine Kircos, other, Off Campus (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:29 pm
  1279. Chelsie W Librun, sophomore, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:29 pm
  1280. Yu-Chi Kuo, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:29 pm
  1281. Erin E Hunt, sophomore, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:31 pm
  1282. Omar Y Carrasquillo, senior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:34 pm
  1283. Sheila Z Xu, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:34 pm
  1284. Jonathan Ng, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:35 pm
  1285. Joshua Horowitz, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:41 pm
  1286. Mallika Randeria, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:42 pm
  1287. Jhanel F Chew, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:48 pm
  1288. Pratiksha R Thaker, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:48 pm
    Having cooked the majority of my meals for myself this semester, an expensive and mandatory dining plan would force me to change my eating habits or move out of my dorm. The idea that this plan is cheaper than those of other colleges ignores the fact that it provides far fewer options; for instance, one plan at USC allows students, for about $500 more per semester, all-you-can-eat dining options for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, with no connection to dorm life and choices both on and off campus that accept meals. I have voiced my opinions where possible, but see no recognition of them beyond my UA representatives.
  1289. Alicia Y Xiong, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:49 pm
  1290. Megan E Cherry, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:49 pm
  1291. Bomber Bishop, other, Alpha Delta Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:50 pm
    As an alum and parent of a current student, I am concerned that this new dining plan will have significant unforeseen side effects on the MIT student culture and, eventually, on MIT's place in the world. I believe it will contribute in the long term to a noticeable reduction in the independence and societal effectiveness of future MIT graduates.

    As I see it, MIT has long found pride in avoiding the "in loco parentis" responsibility that other universities have been forced (in the case of public schools) or chosen (in the case of the typical group-thinking or unthinking private school) to assume. This keystone of MIT culture, treating students as adults who are responsible to look after themselves (often with encouragement from their real parents, and occasionally with effective guidance from MIT mentors, but always with the final authority over their own decisions), has produced generation after generation of technical, business, and societal leaders. MIT graduates are productive and respected right away, in a way that graduates of other institutions are not, precisely because of the high expectations placed on them (us!) as students. The MIT education, best in the world, depends heavily on this key attribute of the MIT culture.

    The proposed dining plan, with its strong similarity to those of lesser universities, represents the next milestone on MIT's long slide into "in loco parentis," a slide that began with the removal of freshmen from FSILG residences and continued through the early experiments with mandatory house dining. The next stop on this train, one that may well be the last if it occurs, is the total destruction of MIT's unique residential cultures through the intentional reorganization of dorms by year. From my observations of my daughters and their contemporaries at both MIT and other schools, I can predict with reasonable certainty that such a step would mark the demise of MIT's clear educational superiority. Schools that stuff all the freshman into a dorm together foster a "Lord of the Flies" sort of environment from which only the most strong-willed emerge as productive adults. Schools that intentionally segregate student living by year keep freshmen from interacting naturally with seniors, making it extremely difficult for younger students to learn useful life lessons from older ones, and eliminating all hope of propagating an enduring culture down the generations. MIT has so far risen above the crowds at least in part by applying housing practices that mirror the best aspects of community, in which students learn independence, cooperation, and positive servant leadership rather than the power madness and consumerism that emerges elsewhere.

    So, if removing a key element of MIT's uniqueness and thereby reducing the value of an MIT education, to individuals and to society, is a goal toward which the Institute strives, then I guess this dining plan is the right thing to do. Personally, though, I don't think so.

    Bomber Bishop '84, P'11
  1292. Aurora Seidenwand, other, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:50 pm
    As a potential MIT undergrad starting next year, I would not wish to attend a school that chooses to harm its unique culture and increase costs in food.
  1293. Lyndz C Steeves, senior, WILG (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:52 pm
  1294. Robin L Dahan, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:54 pm
    The math doesn't actually work out, so students are paying more for less freedom and worse food.

    Not only that, but one of the greatest things about MIT is that we can learn how to be independent by learning to cook for ourselves. Even if this weren't mandatory, it would be ridiculous.
  1295. Jaclyn Wilson, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:55 pm
    While I'm not directly affected monetarily by the new dining plan, several people I know are. They are planning to move out of the dorms they love and the culture they've come to enjoy just to avoid spending more money. This is unfair to them, their dormmates, and anyone else effected by their decision.
  1296. Keren Gu, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:57 pm
  1297. Merricka C Livingstone, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:58 pm
    The big issue for me is the cost. I can't afford to pay that amount every year even with scholarships and such. I also don't want to be forced out of where I live just because I don't want to take the plan. I moved to McCormick for the community, not for the dining hall.
  1298. Priyanka Saha, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:58 pm
  1299. Polnop Samutpraphoot, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 3:58 pm
  1300. Charles z Guan, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:01 pm
    Be honest, MIT.

    What peeves me about this allegedly "final" plan is the amount of dissonance packed along with it. Surely we all understand the true motive of the dining reform is to bring up MIT's bottom like. Losing $600,000 in any way per year is a nontrivial matter, indeed, and especially during trying economic times. I'm sure a majority of the student body understands this, us not being all from families of solid financial footing.

    But why, then, is the message being sent to us students one of saccharine care and attention to our well-being? It is patently dishonest for the administration to play to paternalism - especially with a student body like MIT's. A sizeable number of us elected to come to this school because we wanted to escape the structured experience of high school, or avoid such in other colleges. MIT sells itself as a haven for nonconformists or people who want to exceed the mediocre and ordinary, so it should not pretend that we want to hear something so cliched as "for your own health and well being".

    Issues of maturity expectations aside, that alone is a huge slap in the face to those of us who would like to think we can take care of our daily business. It isn't even that we tried and failed, it's that we are being told not to try - it's okay, it will be provided for you. No... wait... in fact, we're going to cram it down your throat. But for how long can we honestly put off honing our self-sustaining skills like *knowing when to eat* and *knowing how to prepare food*?

    The other reason often cited for mandatory dining plans is that practically all other universities, especially other ones in MIT's top-tier league, also have them. Let me be honest and direct here: If I had wanted the experience of some other top tier school, then I would have gone to another top tier school. MIT promised experiences to me that departed from the stereotypical college lifestyle that so many bad teen movies seemed to lampoon and parody. And in large part, it has offered me that. An institution like MIT can only retain its unique character because it has networks of alumni, students, and faculty that realize and appreciate what the experience is (and was) because they are (were) immersed in it day to day - something that I doubt I am wrong when I say the administration is lacking. Becoming more like our peer institutions is a line that very few MIT students want to hear because we value the opportunities and experiences MIT lets us have.

    I understand the administration has no incentive to listen to a student body whose opinion changes every four years. But Institute Memory isn't an excuse to push through changes against the will of those who will remember their experiences at this university for much longer than four years. Especially not under a self-deceitful guise that is harped repeatedly with a healthy serving of "We Must Move Forward". I assure you, MIT, if you are dishonest with yourself, the attitudes of your future alumni will reflect the consequences of that.
  1301. Asa J Oines, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:01 pm
  1302. Catherine Y Fan, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:01 pm
  1303. Minh Tue Vo Thanh, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:02 pm
    the dining plan is way too expensive than it should be
  1304. Arkady Blyakher, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:05 pm
  1305. Lindsey C Osimiri, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:07 pm
  1306. Kevin D Clough, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:07 pm
  1307. Aaron Scheinberg, graduate student, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:09 pm
  1308. Jeffrey C Prouty, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:12 pm
  1309. Zuzanna Z Balewski, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:12 pm
  1310. Jean H Sack, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:13 pm
    For rowers with 9am classes, there is not time between practice and class to get breakfast at a dining hall. Therefore, the mandated expense for breakfast (which is incredibly high) would be wasted money that rowers would not get any benefit from. Also, the nutrition of hot breakfasts is likely considerably lower than a breakfast that a student would have otherwise. Being forced to pay a lot of money for something with poor nutritional content is unreasonable. Also, dinners should not be mandated. The current dining plan is barely reasonable, anything that requires more money from students is excessive
  1311. Daniel S Gray, junior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:15 pm
  1312. Patrick M Hurst, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:16 pm
    I don't want to dilute the strong, unique dorm culture that EC has because of the influx of people who have to live here because they can't afford to live in a dining dorm. Dorm culture should be based on the sort of person you are, not your financial status.
  1313. Julia A Boortz, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:16 pm
  1314. Heather Acuff, sophomore, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:16 pm
  1315. Christine E Labaza, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:18 pm
  1316. Rachel A Dias Carlson, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:21 pm
  1317. Javier M Duarte, other, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:22 pm
  1318. George C Arzeno, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:23 pm
  1319. Alexandra T Wrobel, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:23 pm
  1320. Samuel J Bader, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:25 pm
  1321. Juan C Eyzaguirre, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:27 pm
  1322. Lisa K Johnson, senior, East Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:29 pm
  1323. Jennifer N Quintana, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:29 pm
    While I recognize the importance of healthy eating and a sense of community brought at mealtimes, our German House meal plan is a prime example of how students do not need mandatory dining plans to eat well and make friends. I am confident that there is a more appropriate way to ensure the health and happiness of students.
  1324. Emily Heusted, sophomore, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:31 pm
  1325. Alejandro Aguirre, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:32 pm
    This plan will take away from the greek experience our incoming freshman will have. Our dinner time in my fraternity is an important part of bonding between brothers and new members.
  1326. Juan C Fuentes, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:33 pm
  1327. Zeina A Siam, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:33 pm
  1328. Katarina M Struckmann, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:35 pm
  1329. Christina Welsh, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:36 pm
  1330. Kavya U Joshi, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:36 pm
  1331. Eric Fernandez, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:38 pm
  1332. Sagar Indurkhya, senior, Tau Epsilon Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:41 pm
    Stop supporting a bubble. MIT students are adults and part of the college process is learning to fend for yourself regarding basics such as food, shelter, health, etc. Academics come second.
  1333. Kyle A Fisher, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:41 pm
  1334. Jordan C Turner, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:41 pm
    The cost of the dining plan is simply unreasonable. And who eats breakfast anyway? Forcing people to pay for meals they don't eat is unacceptable.
  1335. William B Kalb, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:42 pm
  1336. Lisa Liu, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:44 pm
  1337. Matthew T Skalak, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:44 pm
  1338. Ruisi Shang, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:44 pm
  1339. Gabriella Martini, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:44 pm
  1340. Nicholas V Soane, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:49 pm
    Freedom is the sovereign right of every American.
  1341. Amelia N Chang, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:49 pm
  1342. Manuel I Legrand, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:49 pm
  1343. Aakriti Shroff, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:49 pm
  1344. Alisa Marshall, other, McCormick (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:50 pm
    McCormick had kitchens when I was a student, and an important part of dorm life and interaction with the rest of the floor revolved around interactions with people in the kitchens, making meals, etc. If I had a meal plan, I would have never cooked meals for myself and friends because I would have been paying double for that meal in effect.

    Random Hall was the same, and again, an important part of community was the interactions in the lounge/kitchens.
  1345. Christine K Rogers, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:55 pm
  1346. Mary E Knapp, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 4:56 pm
  1347. Ksenia Timachova, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:04 pm
  1348. Madeleine Erba, sophomore, Other (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:05 pm
  1349. Sharmin Karim, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:13 pm
    One of the most upsetting things about the proposed plan is the cost and frequency of meals. 14 meals a week at almost $10 each meal? It would be cheaper to eat out each day. It's far more expensive than what a reasonable person would expect to spend each day on food.
  1350. Adrian A Clarke, sophomore, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:15 pm
    I have noticed throughout my time at MIT that the social groups here are sometimes segregated by wealth. This plan will worsen this trend, that is that students who can afford dining will be grouped together in a dorm while those that cannot will be elsewhere. To improve the social experience and well being of MIT students, we cannot implement this new dining plan.
  1351. Nayoon Kim, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:18 pm
  1352. Chao Xue, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:24 pm
  1353. Kiranmayi V Bhattaram, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:26 pm
  1354. Jonathan A Reimer, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:29 pm
  1355. Zaid Zayyad, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:30 pm
  1356. Miho Kitagawa, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:30 pm
  1357. Mark L Velednitsky, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:30 pm
    MIT is a place where innovative, progressive ideas are forged. Let's not copy the ideas which exist as part of dining plans at schools around the country. Let's start from scratch and come up with a dynamic and creative system that will make schools around the country envious. Let's use technology. Let's re-imagine the way that food is financed, distributed, and enjoyed. Let's do something amazing.
  1358. Kaitlyn M Creasey, senior, Alpha Chi Omega (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:32 pm
  1359. Elizabeth N Bearrick, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:39 pm
    As a student relying heavily on financial aid, the change in dining plan would force me to have to move off of campus. Looking at the areas around MIT, I can't imagine myself feeling safe walking back to an apartment after a late night of working on campus. For this reason, I hope that I can continue living in my current dormitory and not have to use MIT dining.
  1360. Diana P Hsieh, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:44 pm
    I pay for the dining plan. The new dining plan is way to expensive. Administrators need to stop pretending they care about student life and actually start doing something. We are not going to complacently accept this dining plan as we accepted every other unreasonable plan you have proposed. Thank you.
  1361. Fangfei Shen, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:47 pm
    As the current Room Assignment Chair for EC, I am going to comment specifically on the trouble this dining plan threatens to cause for student housing.

    Already, this dining plan has caused many dining hall students to express interest in moving out because the plan is too expensive to pay. But where would this threatened exodus go? There is only so much fluidity in the system, and only so many people can move to non-dining dorms. Last semester, only four people got to move from another dorm into EC through the April lottery. Two semesters ago, once again only four people got to move from another dorm into EC through the December lottery. During my time dealing with rooming at EC, the number people who have been able to move into EC has been decreasing, and only about 1/3 of the people switching dorms into EC have been from dining dorms. Yes, Maseeh is projected to be open by then, but I doubt the opening of another dining hall dorm will increase the flexibility of moving for those who want out of dining hall dorms.

    Some current residents of dining hall dorms may cope with this gridlock by fleeing to off-campus residences, removing their money from MIT housing and MIT dining. The rest remain stuck, forced to pay much more than they want to for a dining plan they didn't ask for. It's one thing to give us food and make us pay for it if we asked for it. It's another thing to give us food and make us pay if we repeatedly said NO.

    You may say that the gridlock of the waitlists will prevent the culture washout that many of us are scared of. YET, freshmen are free from the gridlock of the system. They can rank the non-dining dorms higher and actually stand a reasonable chance of getting a non-dining choice if they so choose. Each year's arrival of a freshman class will chip away at the dorm culture system, diluting what used to be the strong communities in MIT housing, simply because cost is now a bigger factor in people's housing choices. Like other people have said, don't let culture be defined by a dorm's priceyness.

    The dining plan does not bode well for students, dormitories, and dormitory culture. Please, stop trying to force this dining plan on the students in this paternalistic fashion. I've been fighting what eventually became this dining plan since the rumblings of Blue Ribbon. I am disappointed at how the administration has dealt with student life in the time I have spent at MIT, and this dining plan is just another example of my disappointment.
  1362. Seth McGinnis, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:50 pm
    Cooking and eating dinner with the members of my house was an incredibly important part of my ILG experience as an undergrad, and it taught me a lot of really valuable lessons about being a functional adult.

    Eating dinner together is CENTRAL to being a family, and my ILG was like family when I was an undergrad. Why would you want to take that away? Why would you not do everything in your power to sustain and encourage those kinds of interactions in the undergraduate community? HDAG should be ashamed of themselves for failing to support this vital aspect of FSILGs and essential element of the undergraduate social fabric.

    HDAG and others, this is a bad decision, and by moving it forward, you will do harm. Stop. Don't do that. Go back and change it. This is wrong, and you are wrong for supporting it.
  1363. Isaac D Bleicher, junior, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:51 pm
  1364. Javier A Garcia, senior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:52 pm
  1365. Corinne M Carland, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 5:53 pm
  1366. Fakhri S Zahedy, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:01 pm
  1367. Michael J Burton, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:02 pm
  1368. John T Curtice, junior, Delta Upsilon (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:10 pm
  1369. Andrew L Dorne, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:11 pm
  1370. Mark E Artz, graduate student, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:16 pm
  1371. Nicholas S Ambrogi, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:16 pm
    I am a member of MIT's chapter of the Delta Upsilon fraternity, and I oppose the dining plan because it will make our recruitment process extremely difficult in the years to come.
  1372. Alexa M Schulte, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:20 pm
  1373. Zachary K Fisher, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:21 pm
    I do not plan to live in Maseeh Hall next year if the dining plan does not change by then.
  1374. Felix Sung, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:26 pm
  1375. Cindy Jaworsky, freshman, Baker (parent)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:39 pm
  1376. Jillian M Oliveira, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:41 pm
  1377. Brian E Bell, sophomore, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:42 pm
  1378. Samantha S Luo, junior, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:42 pm
  1379. Erika Ye, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:42 pm
    I know a lot of colleges/universities have dining plans based on meals and such, and they are a bit pricey. But I don't think they are as expensive as what is currently proposed, and they definitely provide more flexibility, even for freshmen. Maybe someone should send out a survey to see how much people usually spend on food, and then the price should be set based on that.

    Also, while I do love breakfast, I would almost never wake up early enough to get some without being late to class.
  1380. Jessica F Liu, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:44 pm
  1381. Ankit J Gordhandas, other, MacGregor (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:45 pm
  1382. Amber H Li, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:46 pm
  1383. Alexandr Zamorzaev, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:49 pm
    1. The cost is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody guarantees that the additional cost will be fully covered by financial aid.
    2. Lots of freshmen (who cannot live off campus) will be forced into the plan (since not all of them will get into dorms with no dining).
  1384. Lillian C Wang, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:50 pm
    The new dining plan is terrible for all the reasons stated above, and MIT knows this. This is why they chose to go behind students' backs and only inform us after it could not be changed.
  1385. Di Jin, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:51 pm
  1386. Scott E Sundvor, junior, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 6:55 pm
  1387. Elizabeth A Krueger, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:00 pm
  1388. Benjamin Mako Hill, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:07 pm
  1389. Irene Zhou, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:07 pm
  1390. Prannay Budhraja, other, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:10 pm
  1391. Elizabeth M Simon, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:12 pm
  1392. Liam Midgley, other, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:21 pm
  1393. Holly C Chamberlain, sophomore, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:22 pm
  1394. Tristan B Daniels, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:29 pm
  1395. Harrison K Hall, graduate student, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:30 pm
    As the resident adviser for DU I feel like this would negatively impact the ability of the freshmen to become fully immersed in the Brotherhood by removing the incentive to come over for dining. Dinner is one of the things that ties this House together and I would be sad to see it suffer.
  1396. Mukul Kumar Singh, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:31 pm
    I am sure the plan hasn't thought about international students or students who still prefer food cooked in their own cultural flavor.
  1397. Vincent P Le, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:40 pm
  1398. Githui W Maina, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:41 pm
    There are many students on campus who are very capable of cooking their own meals and forcing them to buy into the meal plan would be wholly unfair.
  1399. Jessica D Ruprecht, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:52 pm
  1400. Sulinya Ramanan, graduate student, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:56 pm
  1401. Bee Vang, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 7:57 pm
  1402. Erica N Pino, sophomore, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:05 pm
    I am seriously considering moving to escape the high costs of dining. This is sad considering the amount of work I have put in to make Maseeh Hall an enjoyable place to live.
  1403. Jessica Hinel, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:09 pm
    Please make the dining plan non-compulsory.
  1404. Hilary G Mulholland, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:11 pm
  1405. Paul Jaffe, junior, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:18 pm
  1406. Frederick Montiel, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:21 pm
  1407. Philip Alexander Rolfe, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:21 pm
    MIT's been trying to cut its dining system losses for all of the 13 years that I've been around. Maybe the market for dining halls just isn't there.
  1408. Matthew O Archer, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:24 pm
  1409. Joy S Ekuta, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:38 pm
    This changes the complete culture of MIT. We came here because of the way it is, and the way it has been working. A choice of eating in dining halls fosters independence, and learning how you'll provide meals for yourself in your post-MIT life. Besides that, as I live in a non-dining dorm, the culture of my House will definitely be changed as we'll have an influx of people who don't want to live there in the first place, and are moving solely because of price.

    When you have this much opposition to a plan WE as the students who are the ones PAYING don't want, I think that should factor somewhat into your decision.
  1410. Karen Anne Sittig, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:45 pm
  1411. Rachel Ann Miller, graduate student, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:47 pm
  1412. Elizabeth Chhouk, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:47 pm
  1413. Diyang Tang, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:49 pm
  1414. Chad Bean, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:50 pm
  1415. Angel Y Batista, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:53 pm
  1416. George T Cheng, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:56 pm
  1417. Mehmet A Cetinkaya, senior, Student House (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 8:59 pm
  1418. Maosen J Hu, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:00 pm
  1419. Sukrit Ranjan, other, MacGregor (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:06 pm
    The disregard for student opinion and input is appalling. I will not be donating any money to MIT until more respect is shown for student needs and input, and I will encourage my fellow alumni to do the same.
  1420. Michael K Lo, sophomore, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:11 pm
  1421. Elizabeth A Kilbane, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:15 pm
  1422. Emavieve R Coles, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:16 pm
  1423. Joaquin A Maury, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:20 pm
  1424. Kamil S Gedeon, senior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:22 pm
  1425. Kristian M Fennessy, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:25 pm
    The dining plan is unreasonably priced. If I eventually chose to move to a different residence, I would have to move somewhere without a dining plan, because the dining plan is so outrageously expensive.
  1426. Rosemary McNaughton, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:27 pm
    I'm an alumn*a* of pika with a lowercase p... but I support students having a broad range of choices in their dining options, including being associated with FSILGs for dining to participate in that aspect of MIT community life.
  1427. Olivia L Mello, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:35 pm
  1428. Chad Trujillo, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:36 pm
    One the best things about my living experience while at MIT was the food program at my ILG --- the students worked together to make food for each other.
  1429. Joseph E Lemberg, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:38 pm
  1430. Eugene Kuznetsov, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:40 pm
  1431. Gabriel A Ha, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:41 pm
  1432. George Steeves, other, Other (parent)
    at November 18, 2010, 9:59 pm
    Helping to prepare a meal for my daughters house was the highlight of my recent visit.
  1433. Molly K Duffy, freshman, Burton-Conner (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:02 pm
  1434. Emilio A Gonzalez, sophomore, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:07 pm
  1435. Ozymandias B Agar, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:08 pm
    MIT isn't looking at this well. Almost no good (nutritious, tasty, cheap for students, plentiful, many convenient locations) plan survives without being a negative financially as far as the school is concerned. Compulsory plans are atrocious.
  1436. Avanti Shrikumar, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:15 pm
  1437. Oniel Martin, other, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:18 pm
    The new plan is unfair and not just.
  1438. Dora Steeves, other, Other (other)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:20 pm
    Students that have kitchens like to cook for themselves and or others. This teaches them responsibility and independence.
  1439. Derek A Sutherland, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:25 pm
    This dining plans needs to change, or I will be reevaluating my residence for my senior year, instead of enjoying living with the people I'm currently residing with in my final year at this school. Personally, I think we deserve the respect of being listened to, since it is ultimately our lives that this dining plan is impacting, not the lives of the people imposing it. If you don't believe we receive this respect, then so be it, but it will always be remembered as a failure of respect for student rights.
  1440. Joseph Harrington, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:30 pm
  1441. Yimin Chen, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:39 pm
    The new dining plan is ridiculous. It will just result in many people moving out the dorms.
  1442. Barry A Kriegsman, junior, Phi Delta Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:45 pm
  1443. Ting Mao, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:51 pm
  1444. Dennis J Smiley, freshman, Bexley (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:56 pm
  1445. Franco R Montalvo, sophomore, Theta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:59 pm
    I wouldn't want this if I were living on campus nor do I want it for anyone on campus now. I just wouldnt have time to take advantage of the dining plan proposed since my schedule tends to run at random intervals.
  1446. Ari S Umans, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 10:59 pm
    All of my friends are going to move out to avoid dining, and I don't know if I want to still live here alone.
  1447. Thomas A Vandermeulen, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:02 pm
  1448. Noah S Caplan, senior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:04 pm
  1449. Nora O Hickey, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:07 pm
  1450. Emily K Rosser, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:13 pm
  1451. Nathaniel E Atnafu, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:16 pm
  1452. Victor Marius Costan, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:18 pm
    I lived in a dorm for all my 4 years of undergraduate tenure at MIT and I think it's an awesome experience. I know people who are leaving their dorms because of this change. QED
  1453. Camille A DeJarnett, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:20 pm
    My dorm, specifically, my floor, is my life. The people I live with are my core social group, and we live amicably because we all chose to be that way in an egalitarian system. The new dining system would lead to people living here simply to avoid dining costs, ruining much of the closeness and esprit de corps I've experienced.
  1454. Maria Z Tou, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:28 pm
  1455. Rachel Soomee Lee, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:28 pm
  1456. Alejandro R Sedeno, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:29 pm
    Plans like this come up every so often. When I was a student, I was opposed to the mandatory dining plan that the administration was trying to slip past us then. I recognize that this is not the same plan, but it shares many of the same problems. I stand by the current MIT student body in their opposition to this plan.

    http://tech.mit.edu/V121/N49/49dining.49n.html
  1457. Drew D Regitsky, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:44 pm
    On a basic level, I really don't understand the motivation for this new dining proposal...

    Is it intended to close a $600,000/year budget hole? If so it would actually be cheaper for students in dining dorms to just be taxed a yearly amount to close the gap (estimating 1000 dining dorm residents total, so $600/student/yr)

    Is it trying to force students to eat healthier? Who said that current student diets are unhealthy in the first place? And will the food at dining really be all that healthy? (cafeteria food usually isn't...)

    Is it a covert way of raising the effective tuition, or diverting more government financial aid funds to MIT? Or a clever move by MIT Dining to look better by filling its annual deficit with funds from Financial Aid? I seriously hope not.

    I think this petition makes the flaws of the proposed dining plan pretty clear. The only missing point is how hard hit McCormick will be. It's an all-girls dorm; you're an idiot if you think residents live there because of the dining plan. This new proposal will probably kill McCormick unless its residents can be exempt from the mandatory meal plan.
  1458. Fareeha Safir, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:49 pm
  1459. Craig Jeremy Rothman, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:50 pm
  1460. Phillip W Mercer, junior, Nu Delta (fsilg resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:51 pm
    We use dinner at our house as a means for members to take time out of a busy schedule to eat and bond together. Even if I lived in a residence where this would effect my personal habits, I would be upset at having to move due to cost and the cultural effects that this will have throughout the dorms on campus.
  1461. Aric J Dama, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:56 pm
  1462. Timothy Allen Jordan, other, Other (parent)
    at November 18, 2010, 11:56 pm
    Alexandra Marie Jordan, my daughter, has toiled with great diligence to work within the framework of the Institutional process to craft a plan that balances student and MIT administration interests.
    She hasn't explicitly said so to me, but I suspect this Petition drive and other outreach/protest efforts are at a deep level DISMAYING to her. Without reservation I support her conclusions, and in absence of very clear and insightful rebuttal from administration to the specific points in this petition I will consider these points De Facto truths, and as such MIT administration and thus the institution will be forever more diminished in my eyes.
  1463. Joshua Goldberg, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:00 am
    I don't really understand the anti-student sentiments that have arisen in MIT's administration since I attended. Was it something I said or did? Do I owe someone in the administration an apology?

    This is a bad idea that goes against much of what i valued, took pride in, and identified with as a member of the MIT community: the sense that the student body were treated as adults, trusted, and respected. It's as insulting and hurtful to me now, as if I were there today, up late cramming for an exam and reading about it in the Tech.

    "in five years, it will seem like normal." Is that what we want? I valued what was unique about MIT, not what was "normal." And I valued the diversity that abounded throughout the pockets of MIT, never wishing that everyone would do it in the same way.
  1464. Charles R Bernstein, junior, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:00 am
  1465. Ken Van Tilburg, senior, Chi Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:02 am
  1466. Maggie Stringfellow, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:06 am
  1467. Joshua V Sibblies, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:08 am
  1468. Ruaridh R Macdonald, junior, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:11 am
    The current deficit is not the fault of current or future students. Enforcing a mandatory plan will change dorm culture based on money and relatively unimportant factors. Change is natural and not a bad thing generally but it is hard to argue this when the motivator will be $$'s.
  1469. Jonathan T Schneider, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:13 am
  1470. Michelle W Chen, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:16 am
  1471. Kevin M Lang, sophomore, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:17 am
    more food is better, but don't force the plan on anyone
  1472. Catherine M Redfield, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:17 am
    Coming to MIT was a great experience for me, and the lack of enforced dining, as well as the rest of MIT culture, gave me an independence impossible in high school. I think that the independence we gain from managing our own meals as we see fit is one of the necessary and important parts of the MIT experience, and it offends me that the institute desires to make MIT students less fit for world beyond college.
  1473. Michael A Gibson, sophomore, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:24 am
    I do not support this dining plan because I believe student input was not properly considered. More input and design is needed form the student side.
  1474. Jordan T Lopez, junior, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:26 am
  1475. Jihye Kim, other, McCormick (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:27 am
  1476. Shannon L Taylor, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:29 am
  1477. Brittany R Clevenger, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:36 am
  1478. David W. latham, '61, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:39 am
    Please find a solution that acknowledges the role of the FSILGs nore realistically.
  1479. Sarah Guthrie, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:42 am
  1480. Jonathan Batscha, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:53 am
  1481. Pedro L Figueroa, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:53 am
  1482. Turner K Bohlen, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:15 am
  1483. Andres A Romero, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:16 am
    I have already written and gotten hundreds of signatures on the first petition against this plan. I don't think I need to specify why I am against it, as the reasons are all listed here.
  1484. Hamsika Chandrasekar, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:38 am
    I do NOT want to have the dining plan in effect next year.
  1485. James C Arana, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:45 am
  1486. Nicholas G Zehender, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:46 am
  1487. Jennifer A Rees, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:46 am
    Mandatory dining is expensive and the dining halls are pricey. I avoid them at all cost. Also, I live in MacG, I dont want people who dont fit here to move in. If they do that, then they halfway live somewhere else, making MacG actually become more anti social. It would serverly hurt our culture, and as a member of house comm, I will do my best not to let that happen.
  1488. Mariya L Samoylova, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:56 am
  1489. Yichen Zhou, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:56 am
  1490. Orit Giguzinsky, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:56 am
  1491. Michael P Medlock-Walton, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:01 am
  1492. Queenie Chan, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:21 am
    A breakfast *option* would be nice; I don't think a lot of us have time for a breakfast that is worth as much money as it currently is in the proposed dining plan (I know most people just have a cereal bar or a yogurt, which amounts to less than a dollar per breakfast)
  1493. Wan-Ni Tsai, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:22 am
  1494. Mary Munro, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:29 am
  1495. Samantha A Fleischmann, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:56 am
  1496. Maya A Hubbard, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:02 am
    I don't want people moving in that just want to escape the dining plan. I'd prefer to have people who keep the floor traditions going and mesh well with my floormates. I also occasionally like to go to dining to have a nice dinner with my friends but I will not purchase a dining plant keep that going but I wanted to get a meal plan next year. If it changes to this recently proposed one I will not get a meal plan.
  1497. Chester Pok-Chung Chu, graduate student, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:12 am
  1498. Matthew Morrissette, other, Alpha Delta Phi (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 6:22 am
    I strongly discourage MIT from implementing this mandatory meal plan. Students should not be forced in to those decisions and I will promise you that this will push many of the students you wanted to join dorms back into the greek system (which I only see as a positive thing anyway). The house bill currently at Alpha Delta Phi is only $3850 a semester including all meals and your own single room, the equivalent in the dors is $3900 for a room and $1900 for food. Do the math MIT.
  1499. Columbus P Leonard, junior, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:20 am
  1500. Lauren C Quisenberry, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:29 am
  1501. Kaosisochukwu O Uzokwe, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:53 am
  1502. Ashley, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:47 am
  1503. Kaitlyn L Nealon, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:49 am
  1504. Roberta Poceviciute, sophomore, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:51 am
    Apparently, the people who designed the new plan care only about the money. Many MIT students grew up not knowing how to cook (me too). College experience is a great opportunity to learn to cook for the rest of our lives. Cooking food on your own gives a way different appreciation for food. Also, if you cook something on your own, you really know how fresh and how natural it is. I never trust restaurants. Also, I found that many places at MIT serve disgusting or boring food. I do not want to be forced to eat what I don't like as well as pay for something I don't like eating.
  1505. Grady Snyder, other, Delta Upsilon (other)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:26 am
  1506. Vicki Roth, freshman, Baker (parent)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:34 am
  1507. Amy C Liu, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:34 am
  1508. Jason R Hoch, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:48 am
  1509. Rishi N Patel, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:49 am
  1510. Nikhil Sud, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:50 am
  1511. David Levenson, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:54 am
  1512. Robert Kevin Moore, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:10 am
    This will ruin ILG recruiting - one of our strongest methods is to offer discount meal plans to pledged freshmen, but with the requirement, they would have to pay triple - double the cost of before, plus our fee. I can think of no better way to wreck the ILG's than to institute this plan for Freshmen. At the least, the underclassmen who have pledged an ILG should have the option to take the reduced rate upperclassmen plan.
  1513. Nathan S Benjamin, sophomore, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:13 am
  1514. Ryan M Daspit, graduate student, Alpha Delta Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:14 am
  1515. Rob Biedenharn, other, Other (parent)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:15 am
    My son's selection of Baker and decision to remain there was only marginally influenced by the presence of a dining hall. He is a swimmer and proximity to the pool was a larger factor than a dining hall. In addition, he will be moving to Phi Delta Theta next year. We are among the 62% of families receiving financial aid and I'm particularly concerned with the increased costs. Given my son's eating habits, a mandatory breakfast in a dining hall is not going to work. Between late studying and morning swim practice, he is more likely to eat cereal or a protein bar which he keeps in his room than take the time to eat at a dining hall.
  1516. Nityan L Nair, sophomore, Chi Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:18 am
  1517. Michael K Behr, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:20 am
    I live in a non-dining dorm and would not have to pay for the new plan. When I still have to worry about how it will affect me because of the sheer number of people it will force out of their dorms, something has gone very wrong. Effects on culture aside, a plan that will drive off so many people is broken.

    But even disregarding the huge problems with the plan itself, the process by which it was put together is unacceptable. Between numerous other petitions, the emergency UA bill, the UA survey, and even the plan's current frontrunner status in the Ugliest Man on Campus competition, it should already be obvious that the plan isn't based on any representative student input whatsoever.

    Dean Colombo is pushing the plan forward under the assumption that it's too late for complaints, but he hasn't responded to claims by the UA and others that the process was too opaque for earlier complaints to be feasible. In fact, a transparent process with student input couldn't possibly result in a plan so widely hated.

    If the plan is really so far along - if the choice is between the plan succeeding as it is now or failing - then it should fail. The difference lies in who should shoulder the cost: students, who had little input into the bill; or the Institute, which failed to listen. The Institute needs to take responsibility for the failed planning process. If that really means scrapping the plan and losing money for a year or two until it can do it right, then maybe next time they should try paying more attention to the student body.
  1518. Rand G Hidayah, junior, Delta Psi (No. 6) (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:38 am
  1519. Xinyue Ye, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:41 am
    I really enjoy living in Next House, not because of the current dining plan, but because of the culture in Next House. If the new dining plan is put into action, for financial reasons, I'll have to try to move out of Next House as will many others and the culture of Next House will be gone.
  1520. Larry Appleman, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:56 am
  1521. Julia G Kimmerly, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:59 am
    It is hard to criticize a plan, or suggest new ideas without knowing what has already been considered, but in case it hasn't already been discussed, here's a new suggestion:

    -Since Maseeh Hall is a new dorm and in it's renovation process, make the dining facility there very large and accommodating. Have it be open almost all the time and cater to many people. Then shut Baker and McCormick. One central dining hall with next as a small addition could suffice to feed the student body that eats in dining halls. Maybe make the new freshman buy into a plan, but grandfather in those of us already here. Most people already have figured out how to feed themselves here--don't force them to change their ways unless they like the convenience of it.
  1522. Ivana Polim, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:20 am
    The new dining plan will really destroy dining dorms community. Students will not be able to choose which dorm they will be staying based on the community and their preference anymore. But the most important thing is, it is too EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!
  1523. Ashutosh Singhal, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:30 am
    Freshmen or other on-campus members who are on the mandatory dining plan are less inclined to forfeit a prepaid meal to attend dinner with their FSILG, which is an important bonding time for many FSILGs.
  1524. Shirley Mao, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:42 am
  1525. Kathleen M Kauffman, junior, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:43 am
    The dining plan NEEDS to be rethought. There are ways that could make both the students and the administration happy. The administration just needs to consider other options.
  1526. Christine Perlow, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:44 am
  1527. Samuel I Davies, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:47 am
    I was an undergraduate here, and I lived at Alpha Delta Phi. Eating with the fellow students in the house provided a center-piece for fostering social ties and fraternity culture. Cleaning the kitchen and dining rooms with my fellow students was, in retrospect, a good break from problem sets, and fostered a sense responsibility and cleanliness. Also, being a kitchen manager helped me to learn management and other practical skills that were outside my MIT education. Our cook prepared good food at an inexpensive price. He continues to benefit from the salary he receives, and last I talked to him, he enjoys the company of the students he cooks for and spends time with. Forcing the on-campus dining decision will ruin a lot of potential opportunities for growth outside the classroom, and it will destroy valuable student culture.
  1528. Lauren M Ouellette, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:53 am
  1529. Walton Ward, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:55 am
  1530. Pedram Razavi, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:07 pm
  1531. Jing Jian, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:11 pm
    Under the dining plan, the upper-classmen will be paying ~10 dollars for breakfast and ~10 dollars for dinner on 5 out of 7 days, while the freshmen have to pay this much everyday. Usually, we spend nearly nothing on breakfast. If we can take the 20 dollars we would have spent on the dinning plan, and use 50 cents of it on breakfast, and the rest on dinner, we can be eating fancy dinner from like legal seafoods everyday, anytime during the day. The dinning plan does not pay off for us at all; why would anyone want it??
  1532. Ignatius Chen, sophomore, Theta Xi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:25 pm
  1533. Kathy Tran, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 12:54 pm
  1534. Patricia A Suriana, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:37 pm
    I oppose the dining plan, it's too expensive. Further, I don't want to eat at the dining hall every day
  1535. Laura Y Lu, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 1:47 pm
  1536. Krithi C Sundaram, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:03 pm
  1537. Nathan Douglass, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:13 pm
  1538. Evelin Henriquez, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:29 pm
  1539. Alex T Willisson, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:31 pm
    The more the dining dorms cost, the more people will have to stay in non-dining dorms because they can't afford staying in the dining dorms. People shouldn't have to choose dorms by what they can afford.
  1540. Benjamin R Bond, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 2:40 pm
  1541. Julia Gall, junior, Other (other)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:09 pm
    I have a lot of friends at MIT, and I care about their well-being. A lot of them already have difficulties getting by financially, please don't make it harder on them.
  1542. Tony Ping, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:11 pm
  1543. Elizabeth K D'Arienzo, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:13 pm
  1544. Edward C Xue, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:19 pm
    Mandatory buffet-style dining will negatively affect dorm culture
  1545. Stefano Young, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:30 pm
    An important part of my college experience was learning to shop for myself and prepare my own food... don't force freshman to buy into meal plans!
  1546. Linda Knaian, other, Baker (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:33 pm
  1547. Wenting Zheng, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:35 pm
  1548. David Thomas, junior, Sigma Chi (off-campus resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:39 pm
  1549. Ari P Miller, senior, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:54 pm
  1550. Steven C Obiajulu, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 3:59 pm
    I have so many allergies I have to cook all my own meals so I would be paying more for food I literally can't eat.
  1551. Pedro H Ortez, sophomore, Zeta Psi (off-campus resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 4:26 pm
  1552. Harrison I Chen, senior, Pi Lambda Phi (off-campus resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 4:30 pm
  1553. Dion T Cabeche, senior, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 4:43 pm
    The option of having a meal plan was important in deciding where I lived freshman year. At the time, I had spent that past two summers at MIT in MITES and Interphase, where campus dining was provided. I found this food sub par and overpriced and decided I did not want to pay for food that I didn't like and I would probably rarely have. As a result, I lived in Bexley and had an amazing year. Its unique culture really made it feel less like a dorm and more like a community. If students are forced into choosing where they lived based off if they can afford it or if they want the dining plan. much of MIT's culture will die with it.
  1554. Mark J Yen, senior, Pi Lambda Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:15 pm
  1555. Jackson L Prestwood, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:18 pm
    This will damage dorm culture and force a number of new students into my dorm because they cannot afford a dining dorm.
  1556. Wendy Cheang, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:36 pm
  1557. Kenny H Lam, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:42 pm
    This dining plan is an outrage, and MIT has to finally listen to the opinions of the students. Though we may be run under the governance of the Institute, it runs only by the consent of the governed, and only holds power due to the agreement of between the students and MIT. By disregarding the opinion of the undergraduates, this agreement is broken. Parents will be disinclined to pay for this ridiculous plan, and students will be likewise so disinclined to reside in dorms with this plan in effect. This not only breaks the individual dorm culture, but disrupts the entirety of MIT itself. I cannot help but to think that this will cause a downward spiral for the institute and can only lead to a decline in the excellence of MIT. Here already, students have found a place where they can call home, a set of friends that they can rely on, and a culture where they not only feel safe, but are free to grow and expand their horizons. By implementing this plan forcibly against public opinion, this can only lead to disaster and a clash between MIT and the student body. Already by show of the strong support for this petition, it cannot be more clear that we do not want this dining plan placed into effect. It is already so clear that this plan will cause a ruckus and will cause frictions between us. This snowball effect will lead to an entire overhaul in the students that will choose to matriculate here. For the good of the institute, students and all, I ask that you do not put this into effect, or the consequences could be extreme.
  1558. Eugenio R Fortanely, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 5:53 pm
  1559. David B Kelley, other, Zeta Beta Tau (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 6:01 pm
    MIT dining shouldn't be about making money for the dining service, it should be about giving students healthy food options.
  1560. Meghan E Dow, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 6:11 pm
    The diversity of how MIT students attain their food is far too vast for this dining plan to have a positive impact on our community.
  1561. Kristina A Johnson, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 6:25 pm
    Living in Next House is already financially troublesome for me; this new plan is going to make it that much worse.
  1562. Benjamin W Horkley, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 6:51 pm
    As a fraternity pledge, I know firsthand how big a role free food plays in club and FSILG recruitment processes, and worry a great deal about the effect the proposed plan would have on these groups.
  1563. Esha Atolia, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:00 pm
  1564. David friend, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:17 pm
  1565. Amy B Guyomard, sophomore, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:30 pm
  1566. Latifah B Hamzah, junior, Other (other)
    at November 19, 2010, 7:58 pm
  1567. Clarion H Hess, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:08 pm
  1568. Brian K Lee, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:18 pm
  1569. Ashwini A Gokhale, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:50 pm
    This is ridiculous -- do this plan after I graduate (after next year).
  1570. Sasilada Sirirungruang, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 8:50 pm
  1571. Mark J Seifter, graduate student, Other (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:25 pm
    I was a resident of Next House for 4 years, and I cooked almost every night. I would have definitely had to leave Next if this dining plan had existed before I became a grad student.
  1572. Alvin Jeon, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:30 pm
    I believe that this plan goes against the general population of the MIT student body. Additionally, this has serious impacts as addressed in this petition to the well being and stability of dormitory life as we know it. Please be willing to reconsider and listen to the vast amount of students who have signed this petition. This not only increases the burden of costs
  1573. Letitia W Li, senior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 9:59 pm
    It seems that with cutting varsity sports and dining that the administration no longer cares about the opinions of students, which is making me seriously consider not donating after graduation.
  1574. Dmitri Megretski, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:25 pm
  1575. Michael Mandel, other, Tau Epsilon Phi (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:38 pm
  1576. Lucas A Orona, freshman, New House (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:57 pm
  1577. Joy C Chen, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 10:58 pm
  1578. Fawziya Z Karim, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:34 pm
  1579. Danbee Kim, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:43 pm
    As an alum I still find this issue worth my time, because going to MIT means more than just going to a school with amazing academic resources - it means being part of a community that values intellectual curiosity and critical thinking in every aspect of its members' lives. I strongly feel that these values and lessons will not permeate MIT so thoroughly if the HDAG proposal were implemented. Abstractly speaking, an honest and critical evaluation of the problem can lead to the optimally efficient and elegant solution. The HDAG proposal is neither efficient nor elegant in accomplishing its stated goals. If HDAG actually wants to positively contribute to the MIT environment they need to meet the standard of work expected of everyone else in the MIT community.
  1580. Tevis W Nichols, junior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:49 pm
  1581. Chelsi E Green, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:54 pm
  1582. Zoe N Rogers, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 19, 2010, 11:59 pm
    i will be moving out of the dorm if the dining plan stays in play.
  1583. David S Rolnick, junior, New House (fsilg resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:12 am
  1584. Karen R Li, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:27 am
  1585. John Rogers, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:31 am
    Some of my best memories of MIT were the meals we had at my FSILG, even when I was a freshman and living in the dorms. The FSILG tradition allows a needed break from the rigors of MIT, and the dining experience at my FSILG was a cornerstone of this experience.

    John Rogers
    DU 2006
    2002-2003 IFC Secretary
  1586. Lisette Lopez, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:38 am
  1587. Trevor J Shannon, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:39 am
  1588. Avril F Kenney, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:54 am
    I think the proposed dining program is unreasonable, and the administrators, whether intentionally or not, are sidestepping the main issues in their responses to student protest.

    They argue that the process has been transparent and has taken student input into account. This may be true, but the fact that they considered input from some students does not make it okay to finalize a plan that most people are against.

    They argue that the dining plan will improve the educational experience and community. While it *might* be true that the dining plan would have positive impact in these areas, it is *definitely* true that it would have negative impact, and given that these are not areas that particularly need improvement, this is not a valid argument in favor of the dining plan.

    They argue that prospective students and parents are concerned about the issue of dining. This is true, but in my opinion, it is more important to have a system that works well for the people inside MIT than to have a system that looks nice to the people outside MIT. This school does not have a problem attracting qualified students, and should not concern itself with appeasing overprotective parents.

    They argue that the new dining plan is similar to what many other schools have. This seems irrelevant (other than the prospective-student issue addressed above). MIT is not the type of place that can get away with saying "oh, everybody else does it, so it's okay for us to do it too".

    They argue that the price of two of the three dining plans is similar to what students in dining dorms currently pay for food. But even the larger of those two plans only covers 12 meals per week, which is probably a little more than half the total amount of food that a student eats. So this argument doesn't even make sense.

    They argue that students will have the choice to live in dining or non-dining dorms. First of all, for many students this isn't true, because of financial restrictions. But second, the point isn't that there's a choice, the point is that dining will now be a huge factor in this choice, and it shouldn't be. Students should choose dorms based on what community fits them best, not based on their budget and schedule and dietary needs.

    I was particularly surprised at the use of Freshmen-On-Campus as an example of a change that had had only minor effects on culture. From conversations I've had with friends who were here at that time, I've learned that it took some fraternities several years to return to something close to their pre-2001 state. I know firsthand that Freshmen-On-Campus still has a visible effect on fraternities and dorms, and the fsilg-housing petition that circulated at the beginning of this year is a testament to the fact that people still care about the issue.

    I believe that although it won't be possible to create a plan that pleases everybody, it is certainly possible to find a plan that is satisfactory to many more students than the currently-proposed plan is, and that the undergraduate student community, as the group affected by the plan, should be a primary factor in deciding on a final dining plan.
  1589. Sergio Benitez, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 1:42 am
  1590. Jiyeon Baek, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 1:57 am
  1591. Gillian Guertin, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 4:01 am
  1592. Caitlin A Lownes, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 8:55 am
  1593. Jason S Gross, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 9:57 am
  1594. Amber B Houghstow, senior, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 10:01 am
    A large part of my reason for moving off campus was pika's extremely inexpensive mealplan. Even when I was living on campus, my parents told me I should live in a non-dining dorm because the dining plan was expensive and didn't seem worth while. If the dining plan increased in price even more, I am sure that I as a freshman would never have had my parents approval to live in a dorm with a dining plan.

    Since my freshman year, I have learned to love cooking. This was primarily from all the friends I made in the kitchens of non-dining halls. I have been to some of the dining halls, but they really don't facilitate community. If I go there alone, I end up staying alone. I could plan to go with some of my friends, but we always plan to order out or go to an inexpensive restaurant instead, that is, if we don't feel like cooking. This is because of the nice atmosphere and wider range of food choices combined with a lower price.
  1595. Thomas A Anderson, sophomore, Zeta Psi (fsilg resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 10:49 am
  1596. Mun Ngah Cheong, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:18 pm
    Food is mean to make people feel good/happy with it. However, the new dining plan has make people feel that food has caused them into trouble - paying more for the same amount of food they can eat (into their stomach).

    It's very difficult for the students to have their regular meals on time. Sometimes students have their breakfast at noon, but there is no more breakfast catering in the dining hall at this time.
  1597. Mariah I Hake, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:29 pm
  1598. James D Delton, sophomore, Delta Tau Delta (fsilg resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 12:49 pm
  1599. Boris Goldowsky, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 20, 2010, 1:00 pm
    Like a family, a living group builds cohesion by eating (and cooking and cleaning up) together. Give students the choice to experience that; don't make an expensive dining-hall plan mandatory.
  1600. Dr. Nancy J. Walker, other, Next (parent)
    at November 20, 2010, 1:09 pm
  1601. Jacqueline W Han, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 2:06 pm
  1602. Rebecca H Navarro, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 2:10 pm
    While I am not individually affected living in my current dorm, I must say that one of the main reasons I had for choosing MIT was their non-compulsory dining plans that still fit the budget or students. I do not want to see dorm cultures hurt either and I do believe that this plan will in fact separate undergrads by wealth rather than personality.
  1603. Jonathan B Mei, sophomore, Zeta Beta Tau (fsilg resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 2:50 pm
  1604. Aimee C Harrison, junior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 2:51 pm
    The expense of dining in the Phoenix Group contributed to my decision to move off campus, because with the addition of dining versus normal costs of food, it made living off campus less expensive. In addition cooking is something my roommates and I like to do, so having the option to cook meals without feeling like I'm losing money is a benefit I think others deserve to have as well.
  1605. Casey R Stein, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 3:33 pm
  1606. Joseph W Colosimo, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 3:59 pm
    I do not believe that the process by which the proposed plan was created accurately reflected the true opinions of MIT students. HDAG's surveys contained many poorly worded questions as well as questions that did not properly address the issue of benefit vs. cost. For example, by breaking down the cost of each breakfast item and asking students what they were willing to pay for each item, the survey implied that students would have a choice in the types of breakfasts that they would pay for when they went to breakfast in the mornings. As a result, students taking the survey were likely to answer that they would like many of the benefits provided by the new plan because the true issue of cost in terms of a per-semester lump sum was not addressed at all. Regardless of whether this survey was purposely designed to elicit these kinds of responses in order to push a pre-defined agenda or if it was merely an accident of ignorance, this data is not at all an accurate representation of student opinion. The majority of opposition I have discovered has been toward the breakfast plan, in which many students don't have time to go down to a dining hall, eat a breakfast, and go to class (especially because due to the high costs of labor, breakfast can only reasonably be served for two hours), and toward the lack of a true grandfather clause, in which upperclassmen, who cannot easily move away from their dorms, are essentially forced to purchase a plan that they do not want.

    On paper, the plan looks very good, especially in brochures that will surely be distributed to the parents of incoming freshmen. However, in reality, this proposed plan will result in an enormous amount of waste; students will simply be unable to use the services that they are paying for.
  1607. Carter Powers, other, Delta Upsilon (other)
    at November 20, 2010, 4:01 pm
  1608. Sawyer Tabony, other, Off Campus (alumnus)
    at November 20, 2010, 6:20 pm
  1609. Daniel C Li, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 6:30 pm
  1610. David S Levonian, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 7:51 pm
  1611. Erica S Chung, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 20, 2010, 10:55 pm
  1612. Robert W Long, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:16 am
  1613. Sherry Wu, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:41 am
  1614. Rafael A Raya, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:03 am
  1615. Naim J Lujan, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:38 am
  1616. Ronndre B Price, senior, Nu Delta (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:43 am
    This dining plan is entirely too expensive. It requires me to eat in house at Next House basically tethering me to Next House instead possibly experiencing everything MIT and Boston have to offer without penalty. This dining plan would force me to not live in any house with a dining facility.
  1617. Shelly, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:51 am
  1618. Jenny H Van, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:54 am
  1619. Elizabeth C O'Gorman, sophomore, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 2:03 am
  1620. Juli, other, Other (other)
    at November 21, 2010, 2:22 am
  1621. Benjamin I Filippenko, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 3:03 am
  1622. David S Leon, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:03 am
  1623. Elisabeth L Rosen, freshman, Bexley (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:37 am
  1624. Christian H Billie, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:54 am
    This is a waste of resources
  1625. Alix M de Monts de Savasse, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 8:46 am
  1626. Sivan Hecht, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 9:31 am
  1627. Deeni Fatiha, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 9:35 am
  1628. Dennis G Wilson, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 9:56 am
  1629. Christie Lin, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 10:09 am
  1630. Anika Gupta, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 10:18 am
  1631. Emerald T McKinney, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 11:32 am
    I have never supported this dining plan, and I will continue to fight it however long it takes.
  1632. Christina R Tallon, senior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 11:43 am
  1633. Olivia J Papa, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:05 pm
  1634. Razaz Mageid, junior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:12 pm
  1635. Sarine G Shahmirian, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:21 pm
  1636. Roxanne M Bochar, senior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:27 pm
    There is no way that I would break even with even the cheapest of the proposed options if I were mandated to be on a dining plan. I am very happy that I've been able to cook my own food for the four years I've been at MIT.
  1637. Robin W Yeo, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 12:49 pm
  1638. Ellen, other, Other (other)
    at November 21, 2010, 1:54 pm
    As the parent of a potential future MIT student, I agree that the new plan seems designed to segregate students by wealth, which is sad.
  1639. Erika M Bildsten, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 2:01 pm
  1640. Shion An, junior, Kappa Alpha Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 2:19 pm
  1641. Ranganatha Jyoti Arkalgud, senior, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:05 pm
  1642. Charles Huang, senior, Phi Beta Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:21 pm
  1643. Katherine A Gullick, junior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:45 pm
  1644. Lane E Pertusi, sophomore, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 4:57 pm
  1645. Soraya I Shehata, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 5:16 pm
  1646. Pavika Buddhari, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 5:25 pm
  1647. Maxwell E Plaut, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 5:44 pm
  1648. Ian M Smith, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 21, 2010, 6:04 pm
  1649. Bianca W Farrell, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 6:42 pm
  1650. Laurie Kellndorfer, senior, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 7:57 pm
  1651. Rachna C Nandwani, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 8:06 pm
  1652. Ishaan Kumar, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 8:19 pm
  1653. Aviv Ovadya, other, Random (alumnus)
    at November 21, 2010, 8:26 pm
  1654. Ruth J Byers, sophomore, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 9:39 pm
  1655. Jacob J Brown, sophomore, Beta Theta Pi (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 10:25 pm
    I have been somewhat undecided that moving off-campus to a fraternity on Bay State was the best choice for me. If this plan were enacted, it would be extremely unlikely that I ever move back on-campus, for what it's worth.
  1656. Ahmed B Bakkar, junior, Delta Upsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 10:41 pm
  1657. Nicholas A Pellegrino, junior, Sigma Nu (off-campus resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 10:53 pm
  1658. Purnima P Balakrishnan, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 21, 2010, 11:02 pm
  1659. Pallavi Powale, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 12:46 am
    My biggest issue with the new plan: cost. How is this justified? especially in comparison to the existing dining plan?
  1660. Wael Alghamdi, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 4:01 am
  1661. Gregory A Lubin, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 5:28 am
  1662. Hossain Mohd Faysal, graduate student, Random (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 10:11 am
  1663. Hanna Vincent, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 10:29 am
  1664. Andrew G Brooks, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 22, 2010, 10:33 am
    Universities have a responsibility to facilitate the acquisition of life skills outside of the classroom. Feeding oneself is an essential life skill. Forcing people into an overpriced mandatory feeding system is the opposite of preparing them for a productive and self-reliant life. I've lived in two different other universities with a mandatory dining plan and my observations are that it taught students only to be wasteful of food, and develop poor (over)eating habits.
  1665. Dorothy L Curran, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 12:28 pm
    One may look at my place of residence (Burton-Conner) and assume that because I live in a non-dining dorm, I am somehow opposed to any kind of dorm-dining system in general. As a frequent guest of Baker Dining and many of the Dining halls on campus, I really do see some value in Dining halls close to one's place on residence (not necessarily in them). However, I do not see nutritional nor financial value HDAG's proposed Dining system. The current dining system certainly is in need of change, but it needs to be change for the better, and change that considers all the stakeholders (especially students) in an unpartial way. HDAG's proposed plan is a change for the worse on many accounts. I understand that in order to go ahead with the plan action must be taken soon, leaving little time for debate and no time for any real change to the plan, and that if the plan does not go forward years of planning will be for not. But honestly, it is much better to hault a faulty process late in the game than to rush into it, knowing all it's flaws, for the sake of not wasting everyone's work into making such an unsuitable dining plan. I realize this petition is asking a lot of everyone who poured much time into HDAG, but you poured all those hours into this plan to hopefully make students here happier and healthier, right? You took your position here at this school because for some reason, you think that helping the MIT community of students is worthwhile: that students are worth it. I sincerely thank you for believing that enough to invest your career in us. And so, if you believed that we were worth it while you were working on the HDAG dining plan, I ask you to consider our opinions worth it now when we request you to look at the dining plan from our eyes, and make changes accordingly now.
    Thank You.
  1666. Roshan A Ardhasseril, junior, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 1:27 pm
  1667. Saul Lopez, sophomore, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 2:48 pm
  1668. Brodrick Childs, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 3:06 pm
  1669. Kanjun Qiu, junior, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 3:18 pm
  1670. Stephanie M Bian, junior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 3:24 pm
  1671. Di Wu, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 3:30 pm
  1672. Jenny Shen, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 5:09 pm
  1673. George Wimmer, other, East Campus (parent)
    at November 22, 2010, 5:37 pm
    As a parent, I am not in favor of this change. Not only will the students be burdened with a food program that they do not want or need, it will critically change the makeup of the current non-dining dorms. More students will seek out the non-dining dorm option based only on their need to save money. This will change the unique make-up of dorms like East Campus.
  1674. Jill Withrow, other, Other (other)
    at November 22, 2010, 5:56 pm
    Concerned parent.
  1675. Michael E Plasmeier, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 6:45 pm
    So let me give you my take on dining. As a resident of a dining hall dorm (Baker) and a representative on the RFP committee I see different reasons to why the HDAG plan is not optimal. The following is my current view on the topic and is based on both meetings and discussions both on and off the record. In line with certain confidentiality agreements (for off the record meetings), I have left out the names of specific people involved, as well as other details where required. I believe I have allocated both criticism and praise where it is due. This reflects my honest opinion; I am sending the same message to both students and administrators. I believe that the facts are correct. Please correct me if you believe otherwise. Permission is granted to forward/republish.

    1. For people in dorms with dining halls: we want the dining hall to be open.
    a. I think you would find that the vast majority of people in Baker do not want to cook dinner for themselves; for many students this was one of the top reasons for choosing Baker.
    2. Non-dining dorms “won” in getting changes to them taken off the table very early on
    3. I believe that EC’s second order effects of students “fleeing” into EC does not outweigh our first orders concerns of getting the dining plan we want to pay for
    a. I absolutely agree that having all EC folks at the protest looked bad, very bad.
    4. Why people don’t like the plan also differs.
    5. The largest concern from Baker I hear is cost.
    a. And people are concerned about it, not just me. More than 80% of Baker students signed Cameron’s petition when asked to do so. A small minority declined to sign, indicating support for the HDAG plan.
    6. As I said above, students in Baker, for the most part, like the dinner.
    7. But many students do not want $6.50 (the official #; others say it is higher) breakfast every day.
    a. Many students are satisfied with buying cereal, etc from Shaw’s because of the large price differential.
    b. I roughly estimate ~30% of dining hall students would be willing to pay for a breakfast plan at that price.
    i. There ARE SOME students who would buy the $6.50 breakfast.
    ii. But FAR LESS than the students that would have to buy it.
    c. The survey HDAG relied on to gauge breakfast demand from the UA, never considered cost, the primary driver of demand in classical economics.

    Cost vs Service
    8. I see this as essentially a cost vs service battle. HDAG, especially the housemasters and DSL, are very proud of the level of service being offered under the new plan.
    a. All of their editorials in the Tech basically say this
    9. The hours of service at dining hall dorms will more than triple next year.
    10. The administrators and housemasters have no incentive to control cost. Not only do they make far more money than us students; they make more money than some of our parents. To them $2,000 for breakfast is a something they would buy. In addition, when they eat with students, they charge the meal to their “account”. I doubt this account comes out of their paychecks. Because of the “agency” problem in economics, they have no incentive to control costs for students.
    a. (I did not accuse them of not caring; strictly that they have no incentive to care)
    11. It is my impression that DSL and HDAG plan to implement this costly program to increase student life (in their opinions) without properly running it by fin aid and making sure that the Institute could pay for it.
    a. In these tough times, can we afford such a program? After all of these cut backs, are we able to?
    b. If MIT could afford it, should they spend this extra money on student life or other parts like TAs, professors, etc. How about rolling back some other cost cuts from the past 2 years?
    c. Is this even the best bang for your student life $$? Yes it will help in community. But are the costs worth the benefit? Are there cheaper ways to build community?
    12. This is not about merely cutting the dining deficit; it’s a tripling of service.

    Choice
    13. Under the HDAG plan, the admin is offering incoming freshmen a choice between a $3,900 plan and a $0 plan with nothing.
    a. This is better than most schools where there is no choice.
    i. But we need not be satisfied at being slightly better than other schools.
    b. I think we can do better by offering more options, by diversifying the plan
    c. Perhaps a ~$2000 dinner only plan? There are many people who like the current house dining, but not the proposed breakfast plan.
    14. I’ve argued before that increasing the differences between dorms is a good thing. Every student when they arrive here gets a matrix of the different features of the dorm. Some allow cats; smoking; some you have your own bathroom; some are suite style; some have been recently renovated; some have kitchens; some have dining halls; some are close to Stata, some are closer to the Z-Center; some are closer to Slone; plus slight cost variations. Plus there is plenty of stuff that can’t be boiled down to a check mark on a list; that are subjective; the students roll them together and call it “culture”. Every person has to prioritize what features they want and take a tradeoff. Perhaps it has a nice culture (in the eyes of that person), but is too far away from campus. Every person should be able to decide what factors to prioritize and every person should use all factors in picking a dorm. Thus I believe that more difference between dorms is a good thing, if the students want that difference.
    a. I know many people disagree with me and flamed me for it.
    15. I strongly do not believe that the overhead costs of operating different schedules outweighs the significant cost savings of not being open the hours people want. HDAG has undercut their own argument as Massey is the only hall open for lunch. They currently have Baker as the only dorm open Fri and Sat. Sodexho runs 4-5 locations on campus, all serving slightly different fare, which is cooked in Walker and carted in.
    a. It might cost more per meal for this overhead; but it would be saved 10 times over by not having the locations open. Thus for a service many people do not want to pay for, there is a large net benefit.
    b. Hours of service are the largest determination of cost – they out shadow everything.
    c. If their cost model says this will cost a lot more money, their model may be flawed. Models just reflect what you program in there.
    d. I requested to see their cost model on 10/18/2010 as a member of the RFP committee. My request has never been granted, despite promises to show the model to committee members.

    Fin Aid
    16. Nothing on financial aid has been decided at all. No one should rely on any sort of financial aid info until a firm promise has been made.
    a. HDAG does not set financial aid and absolutely no power to promise anything.
    i. To be fair, they have not promised anything
    b. I’ve asked DSL to reach out the committee on financial aid, but nothing ever came of the discussion.
    17. The plan is “regressive” with respect to income level. The financial aid # is an arbitrary line in the sand. If the plan’s cost (plus lunch and IAP) go up to that line, but do not cross it, than students are responsible for the full extra cost of the plan – without any regard to income level. The person on full financial aid (family income <$36,000) and Bill Gates’s son will face the same, full cost increase. Students currently spend this “surplus” money on living expenses or keep it in their pockets. It is a real increase in cost for everyone.
    18. Moving up the line on financial aid will be expensive. The institute talked about LOWERing it 2 years ago. This money would have to be given to everyone, giving the people in non-dining dorms extra surplus money. Has this cost been considered in the cost of the plan? I have no evidence that is has been.
    19. One solution would be to give students on the dining plan more financial aid than those who are not on the plan. However this idea was written off quickly because it was unfair. I get the same financial aid grant living in Baker vs living in EC. Any money I save by living in a quad is money into my pocket, or money not out of my pocket.
    a. This is good economic policy, because it ensures that resources are not wasted.
    b. You might not agree that these incentives should be present – but it is a very difficult issue to fix.
    20. I have not heard a single plan to rejigger financial aid which will address these issues.
    a. It would be great if we could find the average family income per dorm. The financial aid office has the pieces of this data – someone needs to ask them for it.

    Appeasement Plan
    21. According to my sources, HDAG is considering an appeasement plan. Details are sketchy, since I am not on HDAG, but essentially it would appease current sophomores and juniors, without affected current freshmen (“who knew about the plan”) and future students.
    a. In my opinion, this does not solve the problem that the Institute is offering too-many breakfast and dinner beds at $3,900.
    b. The appeasement plan is rumored to do nothing about the cost of the plan.
    c. It would not solve the issue that new students would choose EC for reasons other than the current students have
    d. It throws current freshmen and new students under the proverbial bus.
    e. If you look at the dining petition, the class with the most signatures was the class of 2014 – the current freshmen
    22. HDAG believes that it is CHANGE that is scary. People that come in under the new plan would like it.
    a. But according to the petition, the newest students are actually the ones who like the HDAG plan the least

    Student input
    23. The government follows the following model: Gather a committee (I believe that HDAG did this properly; the petition disagrees), gather input (again: I believe that HDAG did this properly; the petition disagrees), but then release a DRAFT. HDAG never did this. I believe that this was a fatal mistake, because we never had a chance to respond to a proposed plan. The government then collects letters about the plan and must reply (and make public) every one of them. I don’t know if it would be worth HDAG’s time to do this – but many of the people who signed the petition wrote lengthy responses.
    a. I know we are not a public institution; but the above is a time tested model of fair process.

    Misc
    24. History is not on our side: MIT has tried mandatory and has tried breakfast before. Those services are no longer with us.
    a. Why?
    b. I don’t have any clear answers, despite writing a research paper on this (I went through Institute archives and read old Techs)
    c. From people I talk to on HDAG, no one really knows.
    d. We should figure this out first.
    25. I believe that making the plan mandatory for students in that house is necessary to lower unit costs for everyone and make the program sustainable.
    26. I am apathetic about all you can eat or not.
    27. It is logical for the admin and the housemasters to not discuss the plan any more. The ball is in their court and they have boasted in the Tech in so many words that they have won.
    28. If students in dorms with dining halls do not like how their representatives are presenting their views, than why are these students still in office?
    29. The last I heard a grab-and-go breakfast would be severely restricted to 2 pre-determined pre-boxed cold options. You would not have the option of going through the normal line to take out for breakfast.
    a. Staff members of HDAG have responded that fixing this would raise the cost of the plan; One housemaster told me that students should “get up earlier” – direct quote!
    30. I believe that if you re-ask parents a month into MIT if their students have been reporting back that they are happy with food arrangements, you would get a much different opinion than before MIT starts.
    b. Having a large meal plan option in at least one dorm would solve this problem – since the people who would want this option could have it.

    Moving Forward
    31. I think that the best way forward is the plan which Vrajesh (UA President) and Sammi (UA VP) proposed with little fanfare. Let each dorm choose what level of dining service they want in their house through a public, house vote, with some provision for general house dining system opinion (such as a 7/7/7 plan will be offered somewhere)
    a. A list of services would be provided with prices that would make the plan sustainable. Options have not been totally hammered out, but would be 7 breakfast/7 dinners, 2 brunch/7 dinners, 7 dinners, 5 dinners, shut that house dining down
    i. I am confident that shut my house dining down would not get many responses
    b. Students would have to buy whatever service is chosen in their dorm, so the plan would be more financially sustainable than the current HDAG plan which lets students opt-out of certain meals.
    c. Students and dorm cultures stay very similar for year to year, so what students want won’t change dramatically from year to year
    ii. Every dorm’s lottery results are more or less even from year to year.
    d. Yes there would be change over the long term – but it would under either plan
    iii. For example governing structures: EC by floors, Baker no floor emphasis has remained static for years
    e. The most qualified people to choose a dorm’s plan are the dorms’ current students as a whole
    iv. Not one particular person
    v. One student on HDAG said that he/she would not feel like he/she was qualified to decide in a public vote what students will be eating in 5 years
    vi. Well then how in all world is HDAG qualified?
    vii. Research from my advisor at Slone centers around letting line-level employees make decisions. In something is sufficiently important, when the learning curve can be addressed, the outcome is better than one or two people deciding how to represent their dorm
    f. Under every proposal dorm cultures will change somewhat; but by definition, the change would be the least drastic under Vrajesh’s plan.
    g. Marginal costs might be higher (depending on the plan chosen), but total costs will be far lower if a lessor plan is chosen. But it should be the students’ choice. They can do the math and figure it out.
    h. The decision to add breakfast should be the marginal cost vs the marginal benefit. The overhead, which is needed for the dinner, which most people want, cannot be considered. You are not wasting money by having the facility sit idle for breakfast, if many students don’t want breakfast.
    i. I may be completely wrong and people in Baker DO want to pay $6.50 for breakfast every day.
    a. In that case I would have a choice to accept the plan or enter the readjustment lotto.
    b. Personally, I would live with the result, if I knew that this level of service is actually what my friends in Baker want.
    j. But I if I do not believe that outcome reflects informed student opinion, (like I believe under the current HDAG plan) I am obligated to continue working on this issue until I am satisfied the plan reflects student opinion.

    The longer future: experimentation
    32. In addition, I am uncertain what the possibilities for change are once the plan is in place. The admin has talked about the need to readjust the plan once it is in place. However, cutting back any service is completely off of the table. At one of the first RFP meetings I proposed setting performance targets for breakfast over the first semester. My proposed was totally shut down. The housemasters and the administration was willing to wait “years” for the plan to take.
    a. When I asked for examples of what could be changed; responses included relatively minor items such as the items available for breakfast, the character of the breakfast take-out program
    33. If this dining program has the kind of impact which the administrators and the housemasters say, we should be able to measure that. Everywhere else in this Institute, professors run experiments all the time. Before starting, an experimentalist will first define what measures could be looked at. A few off the top of my head: freshmen lotto preferences, # of meals actually “picked up”, number of people that voluntarily buy meals, average family income in a dorm, some metric of health, some metric of community. My suggestions to look into this have thus far been ignored.
    34. Hypotheses should also set. We need to talk how what we think that the new dining service will do to each of our metrics before we start the “experiment”. For example: For this plan to be considered a success, we need to increase community interaction by 20%. The committee has thus far been completely unwilling to work to define some of these metrics (see above). For my experience on RFP and talking to people on HDAG, no attention has been paid to this, despite my attempts to introduce it.
    35. That way, if those measures fall short, we need to look into other options. If we talk about those options now, we can objectively look how the new dining service is meeting the student life goals of MIT.
    36. Even if HDAG decides that the students are not qualified to pick their level of dining service (the Vrajesh plan), these steps I outlined for experimentation must be followed. The hypothesis about whether the benefits of the dining service outweigh the costs MUST be rigorously proven or disproven.
    a. Experiments can have surprising results; that is why we do them.
    b. To go forward without these steps would be diametrically opposed to the mission of this Institute. Members of the committee who do not believe in honest, data-driven experiments should disaffiliate themselves with the Institute.
    37. I propose that HDAG spend the spring 2011 semester working on this issue.
  1676. Steven G Drapcho, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 7:01 pm
  1677. Xenia Antipova, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 7:27 pm
    I am very concerned about the long wait-lists for non-dining dorms.. is there a way to shuffle those around? I want to move regardless of this plan or not (of which I am not fully in favor) and believe that some of those moving are moving solely because of the costs of the new dining plan.
  1678. Ed Seto, other, Other (parent)
    at November 22, 2010, 8:47 pm
  1679. Andrea L Blakemore, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 9:40 pm
  1680. Diana J Zhu, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 10:38 pm
  1681. Marie Burkland, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 10:39 pm
  1682. Yunwei Sun, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 22, 2010, 11:37 pm
  1683. Eduardo D Russian, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 12:05 am
  1684. Eric Hernandez, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 12:06 am
  1685. Alexander Keesling, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 12:06 am
  1686. Dennis Prieto, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 12:06 am
    This shouldn't be mandatory!
  1687. Fernando Rivera, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 12:45 am
  1688. Allison Quach, senior, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 1:07 am
  1689. Praynaa Rawlani, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 1:21 am
    I dont want to leave my dorm due to following reasons:
    1. I have been living here since 1.5 years and it's now home for me.
    2. McCormick is really close to the campus. It's very convenient to go for office hours or other activities during late hours.
    3. It's all girls+there are many people from the same community as mine. Hence, my parents are more satisfied with me living in such a dorm.
    4. I have made a lot of friends in the dorm and dont want to change it.
    5. I cook most of the time and hardly use the dining plan. The current plan seems a waste of money for me and the one proposed makes it worse.
  1690. Christian Landeros, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 4:06 am
  1691. Christopher Calabrese, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 5:43 am
  1692. Gabriel V Blanchet, sophomore, Sigma Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 9:43 am
  1693. Armando Ibarra, other, Delta Upsilon (alumnus)
    at November 23, 2010, 10:37 am
  1694. Christopher D Compean, senior, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 2:44 pm
    People should not be forced into a meal plan. We are adults, and as such we should be able to decide where we eat. To be bound to a meal plan when there are many cheaper options out there (cooking for oneself, eating at a fraternity, going to a lot of free-food events on campus, etc.) can really affect a person who comes from a low-income family such as myself and the hundreds of others at MIT.
  1695. Anahita Maghami, senior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 4:51 pm
  1696. Karen A Hart, senior, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 23, 2010, 5:12 pm
  1697. Carol Levin, junior, Off Campus (parent)
    at November 23, 2010, 11:09 pm
    One of the things our family values about MIT is the diversity of living experiences and the independence granted to students over their own lives. This plan seems paternalistic and autocratic -- exactly the reverse of MIT's culture. Our daughter has managed a very healthy diet purchasing and preparing her own food (and financing it herself by the way with tutoring and other jobs) -- she (and we) love the independence it has given her.
  1698. Theodore H Hilk, sophomore, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 24, 2010, 10:59 am
    The justifications given for the slated changes to campus dining by HDAG, the housemasters, and the senior administration are disingenuous, paternalistic, and quite plainly insulting. We deserve better.
  1699. Noelle Steber, other, Pika (alumnus)
    at November 24, 2010, 1:01 pm
    One of the things that really attracted me to MIT in the first place was its intelligence regarding things of this manner--how the institute recognized that some students would prefer to not having an expensive central meal plan and would benefit from that, though knowing that others would not and giving us the option to choose for ourselves. I am disappointed to hear that this is changing.
  1700. Jordan Medeiros, other, Phi Sigma Kappa (alumnus)
    at November 24, 2010, 2:38 pm
  1701. Jennifer I Lai, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 24, 2010, 4:33 pm
  1702. ilham deloomy, other, Other (parent)
    at November 24, 2010, 7:36 pm
    this plan will be too expensive, we are paying a lot already. We do not want our daughter to eat so many dorm meals, we live fairly nearby and do bring her healthier foods. Her ony option would be to relocate to a dorm without a dining hall, and that is totally unfair, since her close friends and study group are at the dorm she wants to live in.
  1703. Fred Yu, other, Other (other)
    at November 24, 2010, 7:43 pm
    I am a prospective MIT student. MIT is my first choice school; I applied EA (and would be kind of devastated if I didn't get in, but that's not my decision :P).

    Honestly, I cannot understand why MIT would instate this dining plan that seems quite unreasonable and coercive, with a minimum of student input. It seems like the dining plan would be quite disruptive of MIT's culture as a whole.

    I think I'd be more okay with the dining plan itself if a few good reasons were given, but I feel that the lack of student input is a little unacceptable.
  1704. Sharone M Small, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 24, 2010, 11:34 pm
  1705. Lauren A Jefferson, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 12:27 am
    Even though I don't live in a dorm with a dining hall, I have many friends who do live in dorms with dining halls already thinking of plans to switch dorms and move out. Also, being in a sorority, I recognise that competition to live in our house will probably increase, as our house is nowhere near the size to accommodate all of the sisters in the chapter.

    I like being able to cook my own meals and moderate how much I spend per day/meal. Even though I live in a non-dining dorm, I realize the threat the proposal poses to our culture, as well as to the (almost inevitable) threat that this plan will spread to all of the dorms once HDAG realizes that this plan is not sustainable, either. I have many friends at other colleges who complain that their dining plans ripped them off because they never use up all their meals per week/semester because they get food elsewhere sometimes. I don't like the idea that a lot of people would feel obligated to go out of their way to eat meals at dining halls, especially since there's been many times where my friends in dining dorms have missed meals because they've been too busy to get back to their dining halls on time. Basically, with the new plan, it would be like setting $9 on fire every time you missed a meal. I have friends from schools who have 14 meals/week, and they say they got completely ripped off because they don't always eat dinner at the dining halls and rarely feel like waking up the extra half hour early to sit down and eat a full breakfast.

    I agree with the people who say get rid of McCormick's dining hall, no offence to McCormick residents. There will be three dining halls right next to each other next year, which seems a little unnecessary, and McCormick is already the least used. Either way, the proposal needs to go back to the drawing board before anything is implemented.
  1706. Rebecca A Smith, other, Off Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 12:58 am
  1707. Emma C Jeffries, senior, Bexley (dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 10:50 am
    How is it that we are smart enough to do cutting edge research in labs funded by the air force and the NSF but we aren't smart enough to feed ourselves?
  1708. michael b. whiteside, senior, WILG (parent)
    at November 25, 2010, 11:23 am
  1709. Ken Santos, other, Other (parent)
    at November 25, 2010, 2:14 pm
  1710. Ceres A Lee, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 2:43 pm
  1711. Emily Wean, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 3:06 pm
  1712. Jennifer Wang, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 25, 2010, 3:26 pm
  1713. Raluca Ada Popa, graduate student, Other (alumnus)
    at November 25, 2010, 9:49 pm
  1714. Rahul Dhodapkar, other, Other (other)
    at November 25, 2010, 10:28 pm
    I feel as though the cost of attending colleges has become bloated to the point where it becomes an overwhelming financial strain on the families of college-going students. As a prospective freshman, I have seen some kids who were extremely well qualified to attend institutions such as MIT, and yet, did not because of the financial strain involved. This dining plan proposes to increase that strain. And as such, I must put my name forth to oppose it.
  1715. Connie Y Park, sophomore, Alpha Phi (fsilg resident)
    at November 26, 2010, 5:30 pm
  1716. James R Clark, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 26, 2010, 8:56 pm
    I have not even spent $1000 on food all semester, and estimate that I will not spend more than $2000 a year for food, at three meals a day, no more than 10 minutes' prep for each meal. The new plan cannot possibly offer me anything worth the extra cost.

    The administration says that financial aid will increase to meet the extra cost of the dining plan for affected students...but doesn't that mean that MIT doesn't get any more money from the new plan? I thought the new plan was supposed to seal a deficit! Somebody is either lying or mistaken, and I don't like either possibility.
  1717. Allison M Lee, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 26, 2010, 9:25 pm
  1718. Patrick T Jupe, junior, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 26, 2010, 9:48 pm
  1719. Hubert Hwang, other, Other (alumnus)
    at November 26, 2010, 11:18 pm
  1720. Jason J Wallace, graduate student, Pika (fsilg resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 12:07 am
    Dinners are the most important way we get new members interested in the house. We love inviting new students over for free dinner and good conversation. We are worried that by having a mandatory dining plan that students will be even less likely to make the trek out to pika to enjoy dinner with us.
  1721. Kuljot S Anand, sophomore, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 12:09 am
  1722. Karin E Fisher, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 11:35 am
  1723. Tyler Liechty, senior, Delta Kappa Epsilon (fsilg resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 1:16 pm
    Student input has never been considered with any sort of priority, which it should be the top priority. The second priority should be not to raise costs to students as tuition is already crushingly high. I don't think the dining system shoudl be operating at a loss, and if that is the case, perhaps the consistently losing sections of campus dining should not be operated at all.
  1724. Vanessa Trevino, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 4:38 pm
    I *will not* be living in Simmons Hall next year if this dining plan isn't stopped. I can't afford it. I've already placed myself on the Bexley Hall waitlist. I originally wanted to live in Baker Hall because I am a very social person, but I will make do by moving into Bexley.

    I don't believe it's fair that I have to explain to my friends that I can't afford living at Simmons because of a dining plan. I don't want just the option to opt out, because this means that people like myself in future classes won't even have the option of living with their friends in Baker or Simmons.

    This is taking advantage of the younger students' ignorance (or rather blindness). No one explained to me the options I had. If this dining plan was as a result of a "survey" that was filled out last year, then this is bogus! The only people that would bother to fill out a survey are the extremes of people. (Haven't you ever taken a statistics course? Think about the reliability of this data...)

    A better solution would be to make the second floor of the student center into a cafeteria...or include more options...or hire new Subway workers (the current ones do a sloppy job!)...or add more food options at LaVerdes...or turn Bosworth's into a small cafe that serves sandwiches that students can grab for lunch...

    I'm probably just going to end up eating dinner at my boyfriend's fraternity every night and completely avoid this issue.

    Additionally, I'd like to express how upset I am at MIT. It seems like administration doesn't actually care about keeping students happy. How much more are students going to have to put up with before an MIT degree is not worth 4 years of unsatisfactory student life...
  1725. Bonnie Schaffer, freshman, Other (parent)
    at November 27, 2010, 7:44 pm
    As a parent of an MIT student, I see that my daughter preparing her own meals has significantly reduced her educational costs. In addition, being responsible for meals helps her to prepare for her future as much as any classes she's taking. It makes no sense to require students who have shown responsibility for their meals to now take a step backwards and be mandated to eat in the dining halls. I realize that other colleges require this but MIT was ahead by allowing students to cook for themselves. I think a dining option should be available for students who prefer it and can afford it but it should be just that: an option. Please reconsider. Why alienate the students?
  1726. Maxim Chekmasov, other, Other (parent)
    at November 27, 2010, 9:53 pm
    The new meal plan does not look wise and should be reconsidered. Thank you.
  1727. Owen C Derby, senior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 27, 2010, 11:11 pm
    As a member of fraternities, my opinion on the matter was never sought. Not once did I receive an email explicitly asking for input from from the fsilg point of view. Having a single open dialogue event in the student center for 2 hours does not satisfactorily engage student opinion. Given that fraternities alone represent a quarter of the undergraduate population, how can you say all students were included in the decision making?? The plan arrived at is grossly out of line with what most students want. The blame lies with HDAG and the DSL for only engaging a small subset of undergraduates, deemed to have "special interests" in dining, but not representative of the rest of campus.
  1728. Krishanu R Sankar, junior, Phi Kappa Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 28, 2010, 12:57 am
    Having preset dining removes a lot of the freedoms students have in choosing how they wish to eat. I know that as a freshman, the lack of a set dinner encouraged me to go out of my way to cook with others or otherwise get food, and though it was extra effort, I feel it was a very important part of my social experience at MIT. The new plan, as the petition describes, has many negative effects (one, of course, being that free food would be a lesser incentive in bringing students together, and thus having a very negative effect on social life), and I think forcing students in some dorms into a plan they may not want is not fair.
  1729. Ruth Miller, other, Burton-Conner (alumnus)
    at November 28, 2010, 10:45 am
    It's frustrating to see that MIT still doesn't listen to student concerns over dining. I look forward to the day when MIT will stop trying to impose non-MIT practices of coerced communal dining, and will embrace the strong and healthy systems already in place.
  1730. Amanda Aparicio, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 28, 2010, 12:52 pm
  1731. Diane Briner, senior, Bexley (parent)
    at November 28, 2010, 5:53 pm
  1732. Thomas Briner, senior, Bexley (parent)
    at November 28, 2010, 5:54 pm
  1733. Karen Drevo, other, Other (parent)
    at November 29, 2010, 12:48 am
    Going to MIT has been our son's dream since he was 7 years old. While we love the school itself, we are disappointed in the dining options available to the students. MIT has the best and brightest students of any university in the world. It would seem to me that the school's administration ought to listen to the students as to how to improve the dining situation on campus. The proposed solution is unacceptable to students and parents alike. I would urge the administration to listen to the students. If anyone could find a solution - it would be the students of MIT! (Think of it as a real-life "P Set")

    Signed,
    Karen Drevo
    Doug Drevo
  1734. Doug Drevo, other, Other (parent)
    at November 29, 2010, 12:49 am
  1735. Fang Han, sophomore, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 2:17 am
  1736. Jan Molacek, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 10:13 am
  1737. Edgar Matias, sophomore, Sigma Nu (fsilg resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 1:48 pm
  1738. Erica C Du, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 4:59 pm
    Although I will not directly be affected by the new dining plan, I believe I will be indirectly affected. New students will be deterred from living dorms with dining plans, leading to the possibility even more overcrowding in non-dining plan dorms.
  1739. Heath P Gould, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 5:36 pm
  1740. Jennifer Li, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 5:59 pm
  1741. Emily P Yang, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 6:31 pm
  1742. Jiwon Yune, sophomore, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 6:47 pm
    I do not like the new dining plan.
  1743. Stephanie M Schmit, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 7:02 pm
  1744. Efrain A Cermeno, junior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 7:51 pm
    The proposed plan still fails to acknowledge student input.
  1745. Isaac Fenta, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 8:17 pm
    I am a poor African boy...
  1746. Sneha T Kannan, sophomore, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 9:06 pm
    The administration has done a poor job of revamping the dining plan with this "ease-in/transition" system. It seems illogical to me to offer a "better" alternative that is much more expensive (~20%) per meal than their other plans while providing fewer meals. They aren't the ones paying for the plan, and as such need to do a better job of listening to the students they're FORCING into this system.
  1747. Brian D McCarthy, junior, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 9:30 pm
  1748. Jacqueline R Sly, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 9:37 pm
    Student's opinions and actual needs need to be addressed more thoroughly - the current option fails to do this.
  1749. Brian C Hamrick, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 10:01 pm
  1750. Christopher J Sarabalis, freshman, Bexley (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 10:26 pm
  1751. Diana Wu, senior, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at November 29, 2010, 11:31 pm
  1752. Eric Timmons, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 30, 2010, 12:52 am
  1753. Adam Seering, graduate student, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at November 30, 2010, 11:29 am
    I'm currently an M.Eng student here; I did my undergrad here, and will soon have graduated. As a freshman, I lived in Simmons, and was enrolled in the then-standard dinners plan that they had in place. Despite having already paid for the food, at least in part, I rarely ate at the dining hall because it didn't fit how I interacted with MIT. I was a part of ESG (the freshman learning community), where we regularly cooked our own dinners; I was in a number of student groups some of which regularly met over dinner and included members from many different dorms and FSILG's; sometimes I just wanted to cook something for myself, to try out a recipe. I would have been quite happy with no dining plan at all.

    I unfortunately didn't realize this coming into MIT, or I might not have chosen to live in Simmons in the first place. I think that one of MIT's faults is, unfortunately, education: MIT has been unsuccessful at teaching its students, and the outside world, the virtues of its current plans and options; so much so that some within the MIT administration don't even realize them.

    I don't want to see more dining halls, more hours of served food, from this process; at least not such that they're required of anyone. I've talked with various friends at other schools with dining plans much like what's proposed; they universally dislike what they have. What I do want to see is more kitchens. MIT community comes from people working together. Why can't we cook together? Communal cooking has been a strong community builder in dorms and communities that have it and use it effectively. It teaches a useful life skill, and it's much cheaper to boot. Let's get some proposals out there in this vein: What can we do? How would it work? What are the pro's and con's?

    I also second the feelings many students have had in objection to the attitude that many in the administration have brought to this process. Specifically, Dean Colombo charged the House Dining Advocacy Group with (among other things) serving "as a sounding board for policy, operational, financial, and other changes to the House Dining system" and acting "as a conduit for student and faculty perspective on House Dining". There are many voices that don't believe the HDAG was willing to hear them, and having heard from many students and at least a few faculty, it's clear to me that the HDAG speaks with its own voice rather than reflecting the students and faculty as was its charge.

    At MIT, we strive for excellence. This process has thus far striven for, at best, "good enough". At most schools, that'd be perfectly fine, but I don't think it cuts it here. Let's try this again. Once more from the top, with feeling. Let's do something excellent.
  1754. Xavid Pretzer, other, Senior Haus (alumnus)
    at November 30, 2010, 11:45 am
    The strategy of appeasement for current students shows that those pushing the dining plan have no respect for MIT student culture, MIT history, or its alums. If MIT was offering a dining plan that was beneficial to students, it would not need to force students to sign up. Forcing students who get no benefit or are actively hurt by a dining plan to pay even more money to subsidize MIT's inefficient dining system is just cruel when there are so many more cost-effective and healthier options available. MIT should show respect for students and alumni by coming up with a plan that benefits everyone and will benefit MIT in the future, not using underhanded tactics to silence opposition by appeasing current students. I have given generously to MIT in the past, but it's hard to feel that such money is worthwhile when I see the MIT administration continuing to erode the atmosphere of freedom, choice, and respect that is so much of what I love about MIT.
  1755. Christopher Cassa, other, Off Campus (faculty)
    at November 30, 2010, 2:19 pm
    In an effort to 'match' student life offerings at other schools, MIT is sacrificing a point of its culture that makes it unique. The proposed plan is socially and nutritionally unhealthy for students and will harm dorm culture.
  1756. Jaime Piedra, junior, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at November 30, 2010, 2:24 pm
    This petition is thorough and accurate in voicing my objections to the new proposed dining plan. This plan is not sustainable, and it does not suit the MIT student's way of life. Although the plan is not intended for my dorm (immediately, anyway), I believe that Dean Colombo has made it very clear that he is dead-set on implementing campus dining in the years to come. I cannot imagine that this plan, which students object to so vocally and which is so very clearly wrong for MIT, will remain limited to a few dorms, once the administration succeeds in sneaking it past us.

    I don't know what I find most repulsive: the administration's attempts to quietly ignore students' objections to campus dining halls; its assertions, against all evidence to the contrary, that 'this is what we want' or (worse) 'this is what we need'; or its latest excuse for a compromise in the form of a revised dining plan, which does not address our concerns.

    I came here knowing how to cook very little. I have learned since then; so have my friends in Senior Haus. Forcing students, any students, to subscribe to a meal plan because they live in certain dorms misleads them on the importance of providing for themselves. The lack of mandatory dining plans at MIT was a factor in my choice to enroll here, and I will be more than disappointed to see that change.

    I am most concerned about how this will affect students' housing decisions, and the role of housing in our day-to-day lives. Central to the unique support that dorm life at MIT provides is the fact that students' housing decisions are made purely out of consideration for who they will be living with, not for the need to evade a heavy-handed bureaucratic attempt at improving how we eat. Naturally, this causes people to come together in residences who will get along and support one another through the challenges they experience.

    I have friends at other leading universities. They are truly stunned at how closely my classmates and I (in Senior Haus, Burton-Conner, Macgregor - all over campus) identify with our dorms. They attend universities where a dormitory has long ago become a place for students to put their things, sleep, and carry out their work as isolated creatures, who cannot recognize themselves as part of a residential community because, indeed, there is none.

    I fear that carrying out a mandatory dining plan in any dorm, or all of them, could make MIT such a university within a few years. I will be able to recognize the difference, and so will future applicants. If President Hockfield and other institute leaders are concerned, as they say they are, about continuing to appeal to prospective students as a university like no other, they will be wise to bear this in mind, and act accordingly.

    I close with a sentence from the discussion's Summary, which I feel justifies the sheer frustration that my peers and I feel concerning HDAG's decision-making:

    "The assertion that we may not entertain such discussions anymore due to timing is not a valid means of rejecting student input when the short timeframe is one that Dean Colombo created himself."
  1757. Shuyi Chen, senior, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at November 30, 2010, 2:33 pm
    my main concern is choice. (most) students are adults, they should decide whether a meal plan is necessary.

    also, if the students can't have the choices, we are effectively resigning to the soviet union. think: what would Stalin do?
  1758. Maria Guerrero, other, Next (parent)
    at November 30, 2010, 6:43 pm
  1759. Nick Guerrero, other, Other (parent)
    at November 30, 2010, 6:44 pm
  1760. Neel Hajare, junior, Delta Tau Delta (fsilg resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 1:21 am
  1761. Angela Silvestre, freshman, McCormick (parent)
    at December 1, 2010, 8:28 am
    The 'open' dinning options at MIT were particularily attractive to my daughter, who is a vegan. To be forced into a more expensive and restrictive plan is tough. As a parent it seems to me that we are already paying a room and board fee that is in line with other colleges - to add an additional $3,000. yearly hurts. I don't think my daughter will come close to spending that 'out of pocket' for meals this year. She is living at McCormick and eating most evening meals at the dorm. If you 'had' to make a more robust dinning plan I think you should have included requirements for all students living in campus dorms thus making the number of required meals fewer for each student. I also think rising sophmores should be included in the 'grandfather' clauses'. Students who arrive on campus with the new dining 'rules' should be able to accept them - but if you signed on to a different set of options - they should be respected for the next 3 years. Thank you, Angela Silvestre
  1762. Anna J Waldman-Brown, senior, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 12:39 pm
  1763. David Dryjanski, other, Baker (alumnus)
    at December 1, 2010, 1:25 pm
  1764. Jonathan Rea, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:38 pm
  1765. Calley Murphy, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:42 pm
    The plan needs more flexibility in the number of meals available for all classes.
  1766. Chantal M Jahn, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:45 pm
    I still don't agree with the revised dining plan. It aims to please only the 2012's and 2013's while ignoring the concerns of current freshmen. If the plan should go through, I will most likely have to move to a non-dining residence (which will be extremely inconvenient) because of the doubled expense of food. On top of this, I fear the food will neither be healthy (no matter how hard dining tries, cafeteria food will never measure up to actual home-cooked meals), nor worth this added expense. I know that it is supposed to be all-you-can eat and thus worth the price, but frankly I don't need or want to eat this much food, so I don't currently see any benefits in this new dining plan.
  1767. Meena Subramaniam, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:47 pm
  1768. Arash Kani, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:48 pm
  1769. Jonathan K Tebes, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:50 pm
  1770. Laura A McKnight, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:51 pm
    I have been thrilled by the way MIT does hosing based on culture. Food preferences do not count as culture, and I fear will undermine the very essence of MIT housing.
  1771. Jiashan Liang, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:52 pm
  1772. Kirin J Sinha, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 3:55 pm
  1773. Joseph Marcel R Williams, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:00 pm
  1774. Jonathan T Slocum, freshman, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:03 pm
  1775. Ruth Abrams, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:03 pm
  1776. Michael Veldman, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:06 pm
  1777. Katelyn M Rossick, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:06 pm
  1778. Heidi Baumgartner, freshman, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:10 pm
  1779. Eric Crespo, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:16 pm
  1780. Samantha R Hagerman, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:16 pm
  1781. Elizabeth Y Qian, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:18 pm
  1782. Jennifer Kao, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:25 pm
  1783. Han Beol Jang, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:26 pm
  1784. Charles W Gordon, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:39 pm
  1785. Taksapaun Kittiakrastien, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 4:44 pm
  1786. Rebecca Han, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:06 pm
  1787. Bryan O Collazo, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:17 pm
  1788. Marian, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:25 pm
  1789. Lucy W Du, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:27 pm
  1790. Carlos R Rubio, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:33 pm
  1791. Guangyan Gao, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:41 pm
    The new dining plan is supposed to be an improvement. If it really is an improvement, why is everyone so upset about it?
  1792. Audrey N.C. Bosquet, freshman, Phoenix Group (Maseeh Hall) (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 5:46 pm
  1793. Noa Ghersin, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 6:03 pm
  1794. Pranjal Vachaspati, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 6:05 pm
  1795. Natasa V Dragovic, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 6:44 pm
  1796. Samuel D Acquah, junior, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 7:02 pm
  1797. Grace Anne C Young, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 7:51 pm
  1798. Elisha B Gray, freshman, East Campus (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 7:54 pm
    Please don't degrade our culture. East Campus' unique culture is largely responsible for the global perception of MIT students as being very creative, outside-the-box thinkers. Don't take that away from students, alumni, and future students.
  1799. Christopher L Cervantes, sophomore, Theta Delta Chi (fsilg resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 8:24 pm
  1800. Mariana Rodriguez, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 8:29 pm
  1801. Ashley Gilmore, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 8:53 pm
  1802. Christian S Fudala, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 9:22 pm
    I would add more to say here, but the points outlined in the petition fully and accurately express my feelings about the proposed dining plan.
  1803. Vlad Firoiu, freshman, East Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 9:22 pm
    I frequently make my own meals, especially breakfast, and dislike the idea of losing money every time I do so.
  1804. Anna L Waldo, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 9:46 pm
    I like living in a dining dorm and I love Next, but having to pay so much extra money would seem extremely wasteful since I know I won't eat enough food to make up for what I'm paying extra.
  1805. Yinong Liu, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 10:00 pm
  1806. Tiffany L Tang, freshman, Senior Haus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 10:05 pm
    Rethinking about moving to a dining dorm because of this :<.
  1807. Aaron B Epstein, freshman, New House (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 11:05 pm
    If people have to be forced to buy it, then it's a bad plan, plain and simple. Also, 90 for three days is ridiculous (Maseeh 19 meal) . I just bought 90 dollars of food at shaws and it will last me for weeks.
  1808. Alexandra B Taylor, freshman, Burton-Conner (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 1, 2010, 11:28 pm
  1809. Daniel S Bloch, sophomore, Kappa Sigma (fsilg resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 12:25 am
    I love to visit all my friends in different dorms because the culture of each dorm attracts its own respective personalities. I'm afraid that this plan will change the culture of dining dorms from people who get along well together to people that are able and are willing to pay for this new, higher-priced dining plan that seems extremely expensive. I do understand that MIT as an institution was hurt from the recent economic recession and it still is on the recovery, but so are most American (and foreign) families. This new plan is over-priced (even more so than the current one is already) and not nearly worth it considering how frequently I see my friends that are dining dorm residents eating outside what is included in their dining plans. This plan in no way benefits the students, the rising youth of the world, of MIT.
  1810. Michael V Di Mascio, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 3:16 am
  1811. Chang Guo Zhan, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 9:57 am
  1812. Lydia A Krasilnikova, freshman, Random (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 1:56 pm
  1813. Julie Grazian, other, Other (parent)
    at December 2, 2010, 4:53 pm
  1814. Rishabh Kabra, freshman, MacGregor (non-dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 6:27 pm
  1815. Robert L. Warden, other, Theta Xi (alumnus)
    at December 2, 2010, 10:18 pm
  1816. Mark D Mascaro, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 10:20 pm
    Among all my friends who went to other colleges, I saw nothing but hate for mandatory dining plans. I enjoyed the freedom I had as an undergrad quite a bit, and everything said about cultural impact is true.

    But more importantly, that is a simply ridiculous amount to pay for food.
  1817. john peredina, freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 10:36 pm
  1818. , other, Theta Xi (alumnus)
    at December 2, 2010, 10:53 pm
    The mandatory meal plans started around my freshman. Year. I remember the cost being exorbitant even at 2800 given my financial situation. I'm also an incredibly finicky eater and found most the food available unpalatable. I hated the plan and it was a major factor in me moving off campus.

    This new plan expands on a already distasteful aspect of dorm residency. The motives seem thinly veiled and a disparate attempt to keep a failing service, instead of finding a new and viable dining option.
  1819. Sarah A Weiss, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 11:50 pm
  1820. Arunima D Balan, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 11:51 pm
  1821. Jordan C Marks, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 11:51 pm
  1822. Stephen H Face, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 2, 2010, 11:52 pm
  1823. Jeffrey Bonde, other, Theta Xi (alumnus)
    at December 3, 2010, 12:26 am
    I do not actually agree with a lot of the complaints about lack of student inclusion in the matter or with any claims about what the administration has not done. I do, however, have issue with providing an extra reason for students to stay on campus; I don't like the idea of releasing students from a basic responsibility of life; and I don't see the logic in trying to solve a budget deficit by expanding the reason the deficit exists.
  1824. Jeffrey Bonde, other, Theta Xi (alumnus)
    at December 3, 2010, 12:26 am
    I do not actually agree with a lot of the complaints about lack of student inclusion in the matter or with any claims about what the administration has not done. I do, however, have issue with providing an extra reason for students to stay on campus; I don't like the idea of releasing students from a basic responsibility of life; and I don't see the logic in trying to solve a budget deficit by expanding the reason the deficit exists.
  1825. Lily T Tran, freshman, Simmons (dining dorm resident)
    at December 3, 2010, 1:00 am
    I currently do not eat enough in the dining hall to make the best use of the dining plan. All of my classes are far from dining halls and from where I work, so I often study away from dining halls. I often do not have the time to pack up and leave and walk across campus to get dinner. The new dining plan will lead to a great expense for me, since I even find the transition plan difficult for me to complete.
  1826. Carin P King, sophomore, Sigma Kappa (fsilg resident)
    at December 3, 2010, 2:18 am
  1827. Pooja R Shah, sophomore, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at December 3, 2010, 2:34 am
  1828. Alice Macdonald , freshman, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 3, 2010, 8:31 am
  1829. David Taylor, other, Alpha Delta Phi (alumnus)
    at December 3, 2010, 5:14 pm
    Let students choose individually what they want. If you want more students to take the dining option, make that option good enough that students will choose it.
  1830. Stephanie L Ku, freshman, Next (dining dorm resident)
    at December 5, 2010, 5:57 pm
    I appreciate the administration's concern for us, but implore them to please respect our voices. The plan requires revision.

  1831. at December 5, 2010, 6:15 pm
  1832. Jiayi K Lin, freshman, McCormick (dining dorm resident)
    at December 5, 2010, 9:17 pm

  1833. at December 6, 2010, 3:46 am

  1834. at December 6, 2010, 3:46 am
  1835. Jessica Ashley Bernier, graduate student, Off Campus (off-campus resident)
    at December 6, 2010, 2:39 pm
    Having lived on campus, I believe that the cost of dining on campus is too expensive and that there is not nearly enough variety. I preferred purchasing groceries off-campus and making my own meals, which cost significantly less than suggested by the proposed plan.
  1836. Grace Lau Hsu, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 7, 2010, 12:57 am
    Does the MIT system would fairly protect our children rights? This is a completely disproportionate set of regulations. The college tuition is entirely straining our living standard and in every way already. If we, as parents, paying this substantial amount for tuition and cost of living for our children to attend the college is still insufficient, then, we are not globally positioning ourselves well at all, leaving the children and the parents tons of student loans.

    Skyrocketing tuition is leading students and their families to reevaluate higher education choices. The amount of money we spent on the higher education in the East Coast is unheard of in England or in any other countries. The colleges in the U.S (non-profit institutes) are spending the money that they do not; and they turned the huge amount of endowment and donations into a lucrative finance power-game. The undergraduates were always the one who got the less and paid the most.

    How MIT is going to justify this big increase in the meal plan? What is the final amount should we continue to pay is considered enough? How much should the parents make in order to afford sending two children to undergraduate and post-graduate education these days ?
  1837. Paul Hsu, sophomore, Baker (dining dorm resident)
    at December 7, 2010, 1:03 am
  1838. Rebecca E Krentz-Wee, junior, Epsilon Theta (fsilg resident)
    at December 10, 2010, 2:14 pm
  1839. Andrew Spann, other, Random (alumnus)
    at January 31, 2011, 3:41 pm
    One of the best parts of living at MIT was cooking with friends in dorm kitchen space. Though the changes to dining do not directly impinge upon Random Hall, they definitely create adverse effects for much of the rest of campus.
  1840. Paula Cuccurullo, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at February 4, 2011, 3:36 am
    I am a course 4 alum from 1991. I lived in a non-dining plan dorm (East Campus) and not only do I feel this *enhanced* my social life with my dormmates but I also feel I ate better and cheaper than the food available in the cafeterias by cooking for myself. I would occasionally grab cafeteria food, but ironically that was where I got my junk food (like at Pritchett!). Please don't force students and parents to pay money they don't need to pay.
  1841. Paula Cuccurullo, other, East Campus (alumnus)
    at February 4, 2011, 3:36 am
    I am a course 4 alum from 1991. I lived in a non-dining plan dorm (East Campus) and not only do I feel this *enhanced* my social life with my dormmates but I also feel I ate better and cheaper than the food available in the cafeterias by cooking for myself. I would occasionally grab cafeteria food, but ironically that was where I got my junk food (like at Pritchett!). Please don't force students and parents to pay money they don't need to pay.
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  1993. Busty, sophomore, Off Campus (non-dining dorm resident)
    at March 30, 2011, 11:19 am
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  1994. Hotties, graduate student, Delta Tau Delta (staff)
    at March 30, 2011, 1:56 pm
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  1995. Party, graduate student, Alpha Epsilon Pi (staff)
    at March 30, 2011, 5:42 pm
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  1996. Seductive, graduate student, Fenway House (fsilg resident)
    at March 30, 2011, 8:28 pm
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  1997. Natalie, junior, New House (off-campus resident)
    at March 30, 2011, 11:14 pm
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  1998. Oral, graduate student, Fenway House (fsilg resident)
    at March 31, 2011, 1:57 am
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  1999. Hot, sophomore, Phi Sigma Kappa (non-dining dorm resident)
    at March 31, 2011, 5:03 am
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  2000. Masturbating, junior, Beta Theta Pi (alumnus)
    at March 31, 2011, 7:48 am
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  2001. Sex, graduate student, Epsilon Theta (alumnus)
    at March 31, 2011, 10:23 am
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  2002. Video, junior, Delta Upsilon (parent)
    at March 31, 2011, 12:57 pm
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  2003. Blonde, sophomore, Phi Kappa Sigma (alumnus)
    at March 31, 2011, 3:30 pm
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  2004. Busty, senior, Chi Phi (non-dining dorm resident)
    at March 31, 2011, 6:11 pm
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  2008. Luna, graduate student, Kappa Alpha Theta (alumnus)
    at April 1, 2011, 4:48 am
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